The Oliver Wild Experience ft. Oscar Thompson: Money, Power, Sex, and Culture

Episode 17: Taylor Swift, Andy Burnham, and Scandals

Oliver Wild and Oscar Thompson

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Introduction

SPEAKER_05

What are your thoughts so far?

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the Oliver World Experience feature. Discuss the host having none of the above. And enjoy the delusions and propaganda. Welcome to the Oliver Wild Experience Feature.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my god, he's just so full of energy. I wonder why. Look in front of us, ladies and gentlemen. We have the Christmas in July feast. The cycle of life after this. Yes, because last episode we did a funeral for the Mixed Smart Meal, and now we're celebrating the pregnancy of KFC, bringing out the um bit more than a pregnancy. You know all about pregnancy. Bring out the channel. So um anyway, we're gonna get into the information. So basically, they've brought this Christmas in July feast out across Australia. It includes 10 original recipe pieces, including 10 Wicked Wings, 10 Nuggets, a Maxi popcorn chicken, three large chips, a large potato and gravy, and two dipping sauces. The best part is that this meal is designed between four to six people. So it's designed to be shared. Between four to six people. Yeah. Come like, seriously, that's fucking reputation. We counted like two weeks anyway, so um, and it all up cost $49.95. Now, large Big Mac Meal brought this here today. What was the journey like for you? Oh, it was complete chamozzle.

SPEAKER_03

So I went to KFC, they'll at Shun. They took a while, actually, but you know, I'll give them a bit of credit. Like, look at look what I fucking ordered, like, come like that.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, yeah, you fucking order for like the fucking Royal Family of Tonga.

SPEAKER_03

Anyway, and then uh I uh what do you call it? I had to get the fucking bus because obviously I don't have my license. I failed my peas about five times. Okay You mean you're else? No, peas.

SPEAKER_05

You tried for your peas when you have like zero hours driving. What? You've tried for your peas zero hours trying. Good luck to you. Anyway, don't wonder.

SPEAKER_03

Because I'm just like, you know, anyway, we're not getting into that today. I get on the bus, the guy looks at me startled, like the bus driver was just not he didn't he couldn't compute. But it's so fast, so like you just run on basically. Yeah. And I sit down, and people are just giving me like really bad looks. I obviously think I'm eating this to myself. Yeah, they thought you were just gonna crack it open like a fatty and start eating right from there. And you know I don't blame him, like look at me. And that what do you call we gotta get off the bus at Canterbury because and there's no other buses, the next bus is. So then what did you do? I just walked.

SPEAKER_05

I'm being serious, you walked fucking blocks and blocks to get here. That's ridiculous. And was the walk fine or did you have any issues? Like what the fuck happened?

SPEAKER_03

Well, it it was you know, it was alright. It took forever to get off that fucking Canterbury ride. That's a mess, Canterbury Ride. That needs to be day one.

SPEAKER_05

This corner there, you know that corner um at Canterbury Station? That is like the drug corner capital of the world. Like there's the most amount of drug deals on that corner, like in anywhere else in like Sydney or something. It's crazy. It's like dodging. Exactly, but I don't know, it's because there's like you know how there's like the corner bit and then there's like a little bus depot bit. Anyway, yeah. See, I think well, I have walked home from there, technically. Yeah, I know he frequently walks home at like 2 a.m. because he doesn't want to buy himself an Uber. And it's like a one-hour walk as well. It's not like he's walking 20 minutes. Like, no, it is a long walk. There's no one there actually, alright.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

As you think it's quiet.

SPEAKER_03

Anyway, it's a quiet, but I had a bigger issue when I ran across the field like Theresa May to get to what do you call that the gates. Yeah, that's right. And then the gates were shut. And so I had to chuck the bag over. Are you being serious? You fucking threw this bag. How that's like a kid. I'm I have a diploma in physics at Hustler's University. Flops then open a university, I tell you that.

SPEAKER_05

But I tossed myself open that wasn't as good. Oh, that wouldn't have been graceful, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_06

No.

SPEAKER_05

So anyway, I I think it's quite a interesting looking meal. We are definitely gonna enjoy ourselves. I must say, when we cut back, we're gonna be like 50 kilos heavier. Oh, I know. Than we already are right now, anyway. So we're gonna eat this and then we're gonna come back to you. This

Taylor Swift

SPEAKER_05

week, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are expected to get married on the 3rd of July. By uh the time you guys see this video, I think you guys will already have seen the wedding, but right now it hasn't happened. So, all we can go off is what we already know. So um, it's expected to take place at Madison Square Garden. Um, it is having a rehearsal dinner where around 100 guests are gonna partake in the rehearsal on the 2nd of July, followed by the main wedding on the 3rd of July. There's gonna be around more than 1,000 guests expected to attend the celebration. That includes celebrity guests such as Selena Gomez, Ed Sheeran, and Gigi Hadid. Stevie Nicks is widely reported to be performing at the reception, and there's gonna be tight security, street closures, and a large police operation around the venue. What are your thoughts so far on the wedding? Do you know much about it?

SPEAKER_01

I'm happy she's finally getting married. You sound like a cracker.

SPEAKER_04

Did you guys hear that? Your voice.

SPEAKER_03

So you know, all right, yeah, no, continuing. Yeah. But I I'm happy that she's getting married.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but I just think it's sad how it's gonna happen at what's all likelihood it's pointing to uh having an MSG, just because like, wouldn't that for her be like it's kind of getting that like she's a performer? Yeah. That just seems like to me me getting married at work.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, yeah, that's an interesting take. You know what I mean? Like it's I was thinking personally, like, and and I'm not saying this is my exact thoughts, but I could understand why some people could also see that being the venue as incredibly out of touch. Um, just because it's a bit like I understand she wants security, I understand she wants something extremely private, but in the end of the day, I don't really understand how using one of the biggest venues in one of the biggest cities is private. I feel like that's just a bit attention grabbing. But I mean at the same time, she's entitled to do whatever she wants, wherever she wants, to spend her money however she wants.

SPEAKER_03

And I think, well, sorry, just to cut you off to that, well, and I think as well with the MSG, and I completely understand what you're saying with being massive, whatever, it's it also has I think the strictest security out of any stadium between America. There's no windows as well. Yeah. I don't not anyway, I don't think anyone wants to assassinate Teller Swift.

SPEAKER_05

No, but I mean I must say though, like, look, if she has 1,000 people attending, there's many venues across the United States with a lot of security that could fit a thousand people.

SPEAKER_01

So that's what I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_03

But I'm thinking, sure I I actually s thought when you read a thousand that that seems quite small.

SPEAKER_05

Small, yeah. I could have.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I understand it's a wedding. I understand. But it's like if you're at the MSG, what is the capacity of that's massive? It is, which is what I'm saying is she's not gonna fill it up.

SPEAKER_05

Like it's not gonna be well, it must all be on the floor. Yes, that's what I would assume.

SPEAKER_03

And then flowers or something all on the seats or something.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, something like that. Anyway, it would be interesting to follow because like look, I know I've presented kind of the the negative case for it and the positive case, but in the end of the day, it's kind of a bit of an uncharted field in the sense that I've never seen anyone get married in a stadium. No. Have you? No, I never have. I know you're keen on uh getting married in Vegas. Yeah. You know how you do the I do you can pay like a hundred bucks to get yeah married in Vegas. I've always wanted to do that. Extremely tacky. That's why I love it. Very bogan. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Can you imagine getting like a treatment? Actually, but not actually like. What do you mean actually but not actually? Like as in like not like You're not actually thinking about it, but like it could be funny. No. As in like I'm thinking about it and I'm thinking about actually getting genuinely getting legally married. God knows to who. I might have to pick up someone on the street. Yeah, whatever. But like, that's not the end of my do you get what I'm trying to say? What do you mean that's not the end of the marriage? As in like I'm the end of the road. No, it's not the end of the road. But you're married. No, but like I'm not but I'm getting a divorce, like, okay, so okay. So you're gonna get married and divorced and then you don't have to get married legally, but like you kind of do.

SPEAKER_05

It's an interesting thing, the concept of marriage, because it's like a lot of people would say it's strictly religious, but then I think it's also like a legal thing. Well it is different things though, there's special partnerships, there's marriages.

SPEAKER_03

I think well it obviously goes back to Australia, yeah being a kind of Judeo-Christian country, as you know, the Conservatives love to remind us. And um I guess that Christianity feeds into the legality of it. Yeah, and I think and I think it's in trin well, that's it's a bit intrinsic.

SPEAKER_05

It's a very, yeah, it kind of the foundations of marriage are in like a Christian kind of thought.

SPEAKER_03

And that's why it's now we kind of as you were saying, civil partnership, civil unions.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, and then since then m the idea of marriage has evolved significantly in different forms and in different methods. So I agree with you. Anyway, it will be very interesting to watch. Um Is she a Christian? Yeah, I believe so. I'm pretty sure her parents were conservatives as well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but she come from a rural but isn't it a big thing, like and I understand she's obviously not a yeah, she came from uh Kansas, I believe, Kansas or Pennsylvania, I believe. I don't think it's but she lives in Tennessee, she lives in Tennessee. Okay, she lives in Nashville from Nashville. Okay, yeah. Um, but um, and I know she's not a very conservative Christian. No, she's pretty progressive, but she definitely has conservative views. Yeah, you think if you're getting married, you should get married at church.

SPEAKER_05

You reckon? No, people can get married wherever they want. Of course they can, but I'm just saying. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But you know, I think Christians can still get married in different places, wherever you want. Anyway, it's a it's a very positive thing. Like not many people get married. People have different yeah, of course, people have different views on marriage, etcetera. Anyway, congratulations to them. Um and you know, this could really backfire. What if they just don't get married? Well, and then this is in our video on the. I actually hope they don't, because I think really not in a new. Do you think it pressures people to get married and like do stuff like that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You reckon? Yeah, for sure. Maybe. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people will be inspired by Temps.

SPEAKER_03

I just want to know how many this is why as well, I think she's doing it just so she has control of the social media as well, right? And I think as well she's learning that because if there's pub photos and all that stuff, imagine how many businesses like you know that what was that Empire the Empire State building yesterday? Yeah with those two, whatever. How many dodgy AI photos have you seen from businesses? You know, where the message of it was peace and love. Was peace and love.

SPEAKER_05

So you're basically saying that she wants to be the first one to post this so she controls the network.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, and I think it's fair enough. And I think that's why she's also done it at MSG, because it's sad that she's had to do that. Now, good luck. If she genuinely wants to be married at MSG, she can get married at MSG. Now, I understand your ethical standpoints on that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I mean I'm not necessarily saying that's 100% my thoughts. I'm just saying I can understand why they might argue this.

SPEAKER_03

I think she has bigger fish to fry with her fucking planes.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, exactly. I know anyway. Anyway. So anyway, good luck to them, congratulations. Let's hope to God that you guys got married because otherwise our fucking our episode is gonna fall flat. Um Where will they go on their honeymoon? Sorry. I don't know why we're going, but where would we do fucking who knows?

SPEAKER_03

She seems like someone she'd go to like London or Edinburgh.

SPEAKER_05

See, I could see them actually going to like Outback Australia. I think it will be something very performative, very picturesque, very Virginia Jaffery or whatever her name is lived. Outback Australia. I have no idea. I think she was like WA or something. Anyway, we're not I need to get into that. Anyway, congratulations, then we need to move on from fucking Taylor Swift. Um

Andy Burnham

SPEAKER_05

slightly different change of tone. Um I, you know, this is probably the first person to ever attempt to link Taylor Swift and Keir Starmer together. Um anyway, uh, so Keir Starmer um basically has resigned as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom last week. Um, and you know, just to give you guys a bit of a timeline for those who don't know, so he initially came under pressure um after the disastrous 2026 local election results for his party, the Labour Party. Um Labour MPs then feared the party was on track to lose the next general election. And then more than 90 Labour MPs publicly called on Starmer to resign, and that also included senior cabinet ministers who also privately urged him to step aside. The turning point came when Andy Burnham, who's the mayor of Manchester, won the Make of Field by-election, returning to Parliament. His victory immediately made him an overwhelming favourite to replace Starmer, which then led to the resignation on the 22nd of June 2026, where Starmer announced that he would resign as Prime Minister and Labour leader. Um Starmer said the transition would be orderly and attempt to put the country and the party's interest first. His resignation came less than two years after Labour's landslide uh in the 2024 general election. Um Britain is also set to have its seventh Prime Minister in a decade, so a lot of, you know, everyone talks about the revolving door there. Um and hours after that, um, Burnham was sworn in as the MP for Makerfield and former Health Secretary Wes Streeting, who was another potential candidate. He withdrew from the leadership race and endorsed Burnham. Um and then Burnham also appointed former Labour Minister at BBC Executive James Purnell as his chief of staff, which was his first staffing decision. With no challenger emerging, Burnham became Labour's uncontested choice of a leader. Um and he has unveiled a series of plans, including a 10-year economic plan um focused on boosting growth and raising living standards. Um he's also pledged to devolve power from Westminster, um, basically just splitting the power up across the country rather than centralizing it in London. Um and in doing so, he's created a number 10 north um to basically base the Prime Minister's office in Manchester as well. Um so overall, what are your kind of thoughts? Do you prefer Starmer? Do you prefer Burnham?

SPEAKER_03

Do you think I think it's it it it's a double-edged thought essentially? I think obviously Burnham seems to be better than Starmer. I think but that's not a very hard uh measure to debate. But I also think as well with the removal of Keir Starmer or the resignation of Keir Starmer, they have five-year terms in the UK, and I think it is getting, especially across the w Western world, it just feels like you have an election and then everyone says all of a sudden now focus on the next one. Yeah, you know, I get what you say.

SPEAKER_05

It's crazy how much even in Australia considering they have five-year terms over there, you would think having five-year terms would basically make people slow down and kind of you know think more about governing than campaigning. But it actually doesn't. No. And I think that also just a side note here, that could also be an argument against going to four-year terms in Australia. Because the whole point of switching to four-year terms, the campaign would argue, is that it will allow you more time to govern rather than campaign. But I actually think that it could um slow process down because people think they have more time. So it's just it's an interesting contrast between the systems.

SPEAKER_03

And I think it's also happening here in Australia, like everything's just about the next election, next election. This has never happened before. This kind of media coverage about people focusing on the next election. And I think it's obviously because the right-wing populace of the world are amplifying it. Like next election, next election, next election. So it's now filtered through into mainstream.

SPEAKER_05

There's a lot of um people are kind of looking forward to see what happens because there's so much drama going on, especially yeah, in the UK and Australia.

SPEAKER_03

Now, I think as well though, I think he should have got another year. Right. Now, I think that's a very unpopular opinion, to be quite frank. Um, the reason why I think that is because I think he won two years before with a very handy majority. You know, no party's doing that well over there. Even reform, when you really think about it, they won what 25 years.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, even some of their best polls, they struggle to get a clear majority. Even then they're kind of falling into like late minority. Yeah, late.

SPEAKER_03

Everyone no one's popular, really. Yes, like, and I think like obviously to be frank and to be honest, uh to and to be clear, there's a lot of two B's there. 18% for Labour is ridiculous. Yeah, right. Like not no one's getting that anywhere, right? Like I think it is ridiculous, but like they're still kind of second or they're second, third, tight ones.

SPEAKER_05

Definitely, yeah, it's not like um the conservatives, because I know in the Make of Field by-election, what they fell in like 2%, didn't they? They they didn't even get that. They got crushed, yeah, exactly. Like they got crushed by restore UK, a right-wing party, and reform UK. So I agree with you in the sense that Labour is not in the dire straits the Conservatives are. Um but I mean, look, I think that Keir Starmer did have to go. I think he had very bad like political instinct. I don't think that he was like a politician, he was more of like a bureaucrat. Um and I think because of that it kind of made him look like he was out of his depth and wasn't necessarily attuned to what he had to do throughout his tenure. Um I think, yeah, no, I'm definitely on the Andy Burnham side of things. I think he is saying the right things mostly. Um one thing I am more skeptical of is the whole um devolution kind of agenda in the sense that he's portraying that more or less as his main focus and that as if it's the silver bullet. And I just think that I understand that local power gives you local outcomes. You know, when you split power up and give more power to councils, that's great. But I just don't think that this is necessarily gonna solve the country's issues, right? The way at least he's depicting it will. Um so yeah, it will be interesting to see um how that turns out. I know he's also focusing on expanding council housing, and my take on that is obviously that's great, right? But his issue is is he is constrained to the Keir Starmer's 2024 election manifesto, which basically said that they won't be able to raise taxes, meaning they won't be able to raise enough revenue to reform the housing system that they would need to have. Does that make sense? So then basically they either don't have the money to invest in housing, or they're gonna have to change the planning systems, and I think if they do that, then it kind of you know, we could see lower building standards and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm not sure how that's gonna go. Just quickly back to devolution as well, just to circle back. I think as well, like just get to it. Like, why are we wasting time as your first thing to like do devolution? You should be funding the programs in northern England or doing all that, you know. He could he does say that he's a he is a democratic socialist. I believe he said that.

SPEAKER_05

I know today he said he wants to end neoliberalism and stuff. So I think he's definitely in that school of it. So it's like just get to it. Why are we wasting time? He's not prime minister yet, of course.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm I understand, but like, yeah, I think people want radical change in that country.

SPEAKER_05

And I think he's trying to portray that as the radical change. Yes, and I think I was just questioning that, but as well, I do think the reason he's pushing it to, you know, advocate for him is because it is radical change and it's disruption to the system, because people want disruption to the system, believe it or not, um, that is very, very easy to do, that doesn't cost you much money. Because he's so tightly constrained to their manifesto where they can't raise taxes and because their budget's so bad, it's just a tangible thing. It's like a tactile thing for people to be able to actually look at and go, okay, he's doing something, right? So, like as much as I have my doubts about it, and you know, I just don't think it's as good as they make it out to be. I understand politically why he's doing it.

SPEAKER_03

And I think as well, I think uh he needs to think about calling an election in the next GR. I think just circling back to uh 2024 and just tying himself to that, well, because he ha like that's what happens, right? In these Westminster systems, yeah. He he needs to be able to find a way to get out of that. Now, obviously I understand, don't call it straight away, like there's no point calling it if you're gonna get decimated. Yeah, but like even if you know you're gonna lose seats, yeah, I think he should still call it.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, because well it helps him because they can change the manifesto for the next election, meaning they can be a bit bolder and more ambitious. Because I think Kiostama, you know, misread the room when he put together a very conservative and safe manifesto. People wanted change, and even though that's the name of the manifesto, it really was just a bit more of the same. Um, and I think you know, if he actually put forward policies that are a lot more ambitious, that would benefit him in the election.

SPEAKER_03

And I think as well though, to in but to be fair, in Burnham's credit, right? I think the problem with Starmer is it's it's a it's a double thing in the sense that it's what you're saying with his manifesto, Keystama's manifesto, being so just like stable, so like as you said more than that. I wouldn't even say stable, I'd say stale. Yes, the word I would use. Yeah, good point. Um but it's also that his personality it's like well that's what I was saying. Think about New South Wales. Think about New South Wales, right? It's very similar with the policy and everything. Like it's very just like touching up the edges, you know, no actual institution. Yes, right. But you have Chris Minnes, who's a very personable guide of the people, yes, right. Some would say. Yeah. Keysn was never that. Yeah, he was also stale to himself.

SPEAKER_05

You can sell the centrism, but you need a good salesman. And they had a bad salesman. Well, and I think but but I think Burnham, right, I think he's trying to sell centrism.

SPEAKER_03

No, and I don't think he should. No, I agree with that. But right, but I think if that's what he was forced to do because things weren't getting better anytime soon, I think he would be a better salesman than Kid, which again, as I said, is not a very hard measure. He's a better communicator. Not a very hard uh measure to achieve. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Well, anyway, it would be interesting to see. Um, will he kind of, you know, because think of you know leaders who step down and have a replacement, will he go the Kamala Harris route where they unfortunately lose and take a hit, or will he go the Mark Carney route where they end up succeeding and riding high in the polls? My suggestion is if you look at both of them instances, both Carney and Kamala so uh actually like we saw honeymoons for them in terms of polling, right? Um where you know. Sooner, somewhat later, but either way, there was a honeymoon that happened in their tenure towards the beginning. I think Burnham should potentially capitalise on that and potentially call an election if he thinks he can win.

SPEAKER_03

It's this is interesting, and I want to circle back to Australia. Uh I read somewhere that Angus Taylor, the liberal leader, and I'm not gonna go on this for very long. Uh back to that whole kind of leadership change thing. Yeah, do you do you lose you thing? Angus Taylor is the only leader, you know, for major party in like the w the Anglo sphere, like Australia, United States, New Zealand, blah blah blah, who has like replaced a leader and then three months later, in three months, the polling's actually less.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but they got rid of Susan when they're around like 21%, 22%, and now he's at 17 in the worst projections, which is worse than the UK Labour Party as well. So, yeah, anyway, it will be interesting to follow, and we might have to do an updated thing once he's picked his cabinet. What are we thinking for the cabinet? More specifically, Chancellor. I would probably say it's between either um Ed Miliband and Wes Streeting. He could have a deal with Wes Streeting, which is might explain why Wes Streeting withdrew from the race and endorsed Burnham. But a lot of people are saying Ed Miliband's the favourite. There's also what's her name, Yvette Cooper. She's another one.

SPEAKER_03

I think um again, another unpopular opinion. I think Rachel Reeve uh could. No. Now, this is the thing, right? She'd have to very much change it up very fast.

SPEAKER_05

There's no I she'd have to change it up. She can't communicate for shit. The budgets have been too set.

SPEAKER_03

Or at least keep her on if she's not m moving, keep kick her off later.

SPEAKER_05

I think that uh you you could keep her in a finance and economics portfolio and put her as secretary of businesses or whatever. Because if you look, her team basically called up all these businesses and said, Can you please advocate to Vernum to keep uh Rachel from accounts? And if the businesses love her so much, that's great, put her in business secretary. Because look, I don't think she's bad, I just don't think she can communicate well. And I just think that her brand's already touched, unfortunately. I wanted her to succeed.

SPEAKER_03

But I I'm look I when I think about the past chancellors of the UK, none of them have been very standouts. I mean Gordon. Well even uh what's that guy's name? David Osborne. Yeah. Uh under the Conservatives who did the austerity agenda. He he's the one who really tanked it for them when you look on it.

SPEAKER_05

But I mean, uh, you know, he's still quite popular in conservative circles and centrist circles and stuff like that. Um anyway, so we'll have to keep updated on that. Um

Community Strong Australia

SPEAKER_05

you know, staying in the political realm but moving to Australia, which you were touching on a bit. Um, we discussed a few weeks ago rumblings about um a lot of the Teal independents getting together and forming a party, and that has happened officially. Uh it's named the Community Strong Party. Um so for weeks, Allegra's Vander and Zali Stegel have been holding talks about formally organizing uh the community independent movement, and on the 25th of June they officially announced the creation of Community Strong Australia. The party was created to expand the community independent model into more electorates across Australia. It positions itself as the centrist alternative to the major parties. Um the party says it stands for economic uh uh responsibility, climate action, equality, and integrity. And unlike traditional parties, MPs will retain a free vote on most legislation rather than follow party discipline. The party has no formal leader and decisions will be made collaboratively. Um the party has applied for the Australian Electoral Commission registration and expects approval around October. The party plans to run candidates in the House of Reps and the Senate at future elections. However, it will not run candidates against existing community independents, instead, focusing on new electorates. And I also heard Zali has already indicated that they won't be running like obviously every electorate. Every lucky election, yeah, they should only focus their resources on things they can win. Um so yeah, a few TO independents have publicly declined to join, um, and others have left the door open to future cooperation. Um Svenra said the party was created for those who feel politically homeless and want practical community-led alternatives. What do we think? Oh it's a shit name. Yes, it is pretty shit. I saw shout out to the Sloan Zone um YouTube guy. I like Sloan Zone. He said that um it it basically reminds him of the Confederate States of America, the CSA, and then there was also like child sexual assault is also CSA. That's just Do you think that's a stretch? I don't know. I just a good name, but I also think the initials are.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think it's yeah, but I don't know. Yeah, but it's still a stuff. You could you could pull that with a very good thing.

SPEAKER_05

Well I'm saying is is the shit it's a shit name and there's shit initials. So anyway, what do we actually think about the party?

SPEAKER_03

CSA actually, more I figured the CSA sounds like some like Yeah, crazy right wing. Yeah, anyway. What are my thoughts on that? I think it's interesting that they're actually calling themselves centrists because they have actually, if you look back, they don't actually call themselves ideological, they think they're above that. And I think that's the annoying thing.

SPEAKER_05

Well you're like they act like they're above everything when they're really not. You know, these people like they act like they're some mystical beings just because they live in some seaside electorate, but in the end of the day, they have to play the same games and use the same tactics that everyone has to play.

SPEAKER_03

That's what they've realized, and I think Labour winning 94 seats has made them feel minority governments aren't just gonna happen. It's not it's not a it's not a uh giving.

SPEAKER_05

Because that was their business model, they were they were hanging around for a minority um parliament, and yeah, I just think you know, look, I'm open to this party. I think that you know it definitely could do well in some electorates. This is not a party that is gonna be able to form government, but it is definitely a party that could add to Labour's left bloc if we start becoming more fragmented with more parties. You could see the left bloc include the Greens, Labour, and Community Strong. Yeah. The right bloc include um liberal, national, one nation.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, and I also think it makes absolute sense it's these two, because these are the two safest till.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and they're they're also two of the more well-known ones. Well, Zali's been there as well, could probably be a very good thing.

SPEAKER_03

Well, Zali's been there the longest.

SPEAKER_05

She came in in 2019.

SPEAKER_03

And I think Vali will easily win. I'm not sure about Allegra though. If you look at the vote for Allegra's seat, the Liberals actually was sustainable. The Liberals in the decline in vote. Yeah, okay. Um, it was uh people who voted Labour and Greens who boosted Allegra's primary vote, which boosted her because she consolidated her preferences, right? Um I I think like it's a bit of a stretch to say Allegra might, but she she recorded. Like I think there's a lot of people, and I think as well, um if those other MPs, like Nicolette Buller, who's only on point one, Monique Ryan's. Yeah, even as an independent, that's that's up for debate. Yeah. Um, but if they went to community strong, it they'd just be such a deficit. Yeah, I think it's just Yeah, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know how many I think in order for this to be successful, they need basically all the teals to join and they need Pocock to join. I don't think that that's gonna happen. Look, I want them to do well because I want them to basically decimate the libs in the last few kind of seaside moderate um seats they have. But I don't know. Should they even have it? Oh, they have Goldstein in Melbourne. Yeah, yeah. Um, but I'm not fully convinced. Yeah, but it wasn't there an independent running in McPherson and stuff like that or something like that. But like there's a few seats they they can definitely get. I want them to do well, I'm not convinced though. I just don't think that they necessarily have enough people behind them.

SPEAKER_03

And I don't think I think it's this whole thing about appealing to one nation, but it's just bullshit. No, I don't no, I agree with you. I think that them electorates aren't even, you know, like I think I think you know, I that they call themselves the change, but like they're really not. Like the whole change is being more of the same. It's a bit of a weird horseshoe situation, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

Well, I also just think overall, just to sum it up, I also think it's a bit of a concession. Because, you know, these have been the people who have been saying, look how great it is to be independents, you know, for the past, you know, six years or whatever. Oh yeah, three years, whatever. Um, we're proud independents. Well, clearly you're not because you've had to become a party. Now, people might say, well, that's because they're trying to get around some of the um donation and fundraising election laws, but I still think that this is an admission that independents can't whether we like it or not, I'm not saying this is a good or a bad thing, but they just can't have the cut through that major parties do.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's also you get for ex- I know in the UK, I'm not sure specifically about Australia, but I'm sure it'd be the same. Um those independents in the UK have all joined, have actually are all in a party. Yeah, actually. If you didn't know they're called it's called the Independent Alliance, and they do it so they get more questions in question time. Yeah, well that's smart, there you go. Right? And so like I'm thinking, well Well, it makes you think then why wouldn't the other ones do that? But clearly, like you were saying, well they're their own brand, they don't community strong is clearly trying to be more than that, like they're clearly trying to be a bit more of like a bigger picture, you know.

SPEAKER_05

Anyway, it'll be interesting to watch. There's many factors that come into play there. Um, and we'll see if anyone else joins them because I think they do need people to join them to actually legitimise themselves. Um,

Karl Stefanovic

SPEAKER_05

staying in Australian politics and actually, you know, being very specific in terms of podcasts, uh, not so good mate Carl Stefanovic has completely disgraced himself. Um so basically, Carl Stefanovic travelled to the UK to interview Tommy Robinson for his independent podcast covering British politics. So uh Robinson is a far-right anti-immigration activist and co-founder of the English Defence League. You just know you just know that that's no good news there, hey. Um he has multiple criminal convictions uh including contempt of court, fraud, assault, and using a false passport, and has served seven several prison sentences. You know, who hasn't? Um Robinson has also been linked to researchers helping mobilize support for the 2024 anti-migrant uh riots in Southport. A promotional clip showed Stefanovic walking arm in arm with Robinson, referring to Kia Steimer as a wanker, triggering immediate backlash. Uh during the interview, Robinson made claims about migration, culture, and mainstream media, with little meaningful pushback from Carl Stefanovic. Critics accused Carl of giving Robinson an unchallenged platform rather than conducting regular uh a rigorous journalistic interview. Stefanovic later defended the interview, saying his goal was to understand the political right and that uh interviewing controversial figures is legitimate journalism. Nine, who employed Carl Stefanovic on the Today Show, distanced itself from the podcast, stressing it was independently produced and not affiliated with the network. But then the interview was quickly removed from Carl's podcast um and social media platforms as criticism intensified. Nine executives held crisis talks before deciding Stefanovic could no longer host today while producing his podcast. And on the 25th of June, nine announced Stefanovic would leave the Today show immediately, ending his 21-year run instead um of finishing his contract later in the year. Um Stefanovic believed uh said he believed in freedom of speech and would continue interviewing controversial figures despite the backlash. He later became emotional in an interview with Piers Morgan saying the saga had taken the biggest toll on his wife and family, and then days later ARN also dropped Stefanovic from his new radio show with Eddie Maguire, marking his second major media exit within a week. It's really just the whole group of fuckers, isn't it? Well, look at this There's like a theme right now where it's like middle-aged men with a lot of money in Australia are losing the plot. Think of Carl Stefanovic, think of Carl Sanderlands, think of Dave Hughes. I mean, these are all guys who, for some reason, have just completely gone, you know, yeah, tits up this year, which is extremely strange. So what are your thoughts on this whole Well, I've never liked Carl.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I think he's just I think he's just a tool. Like he's just a tool. Like, I don't know, I just don't get he's just like the epitome of like just that nine-ish nine like he's just so channel nine, just so shit. Yeah, yeah, just all bring up and I think as well I want to be clear, and I think this is a uh a thing as well. That there was a lot of discussion whether interviewing Tommy Robinson itself is an issue. Now, I think it's obviously an issue, but I think like you no one should get fired over that, right? Yeah. Like I think you can interview whoever the fuck you want. You can who you want, but that's not my issue. How you interview them matters. That's my point. Give any push my point. That's the issue. I have no clue. He's sitting there saying, Oh god, I love ya, and all this shit. Like, it's just the whole interview. It's just like it's like, and it's it's not it hasn't just been Tommy Robinson as well. Everyone else, Paul Lane. The only one he's done a pushback on was Albanese. Yes, that's the issue.

SPEAKER_05

Interview who you want, but you need to conduct yourself in a way that it isn't interview, not just. Our fucking interview with NASA Salter had more pushback than literally. Seriously. I think, yeah. The the it the issue with Carl Stefanovic is that he moves with the wind, right? He used to be for multiculturalism when it was popular. Now that things are a bit more shaky, he's against it. Um, he used to be against Pauline Hanson when she wasn't popular. Now that you know people are open to the idea of voting for her, now he's for her. He moves with the wind, and that's what we would call a grifter, right? Because he does whatever he wants to try and get the views and engagement of the.

SPEAKER_03

He gets into punch-ups, he hit it. Exactly. Well, but you know what, actually, though, this is and this is a good point on his side. He's we know he's been fired before. Well, he's been sucked before, right? Over the Uber gate thing. You didn't know about Uber Gate. Yeah, uh, where he started shit talking all these people drunking an Uber, but you know who has it? Uh what do you call it? And then so nine let go of him in 2019, I think it was, and he wasn't there in 2019, and the rankings didn't do very well. Yeah. And so they brought to bring him back. Yes which is a that's a fact. Like, I want to sit with facts, right? Now, that doesn't mean I think I should have still got rid of him. But I think that's it. Like, I don't think like whatever.

SPEAKER_05

Whether we like it or not, he does have appeal to some people, yes, yes, especially the channel nine viewers. Channel nine audience likes him, and obviously there are people who listen to his podcasts, you know, so that he does have a target demographic that he does reach. Um, so yes, I think, you know, and it sometimes makes me think about our podcast a bit, you know, like the ty the way you conduct yourself on the podcast obviously do matter. Yeah. Um, and I think it, you know, definitely reminds everyone who has podcasts and stuff like that independently and does it themselves. It reminds people that, you know, whilst we might be sitting in, you know, sets or in our case, wherever the fuck we decide to film that week, you might be sitting somewhere that's isolated and you're not necessarily in front of an audience, but what you said, what you say uh still, you know, it's a new sort of reason for people who will take you extremely seriously.

SPEAKER_03

People would be listening to this and for whatever reason this is their way of getting news, which is their way of getting news. What do you call how many viewers on us eating me smart meal funerals or whatever? 4,000, whatever.

SPEAKER_05

There might be there might be one or two. There might be one or two.

SPEAKER_03

You know, like I and um I think Carl, like, you know, he can do what he wants. Like, I'm not whatever at saying that, but it's like actions have consequences. Yeah, I mean, we'll fuck around and find out.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, anyway, and also as well, channel uh channel nine is gonna have a massive clusterfuck because I know his co-host Sarah's going on maternity leave, but then she's going to seven, and that's it. And then there's the other co-host who's going on maternity leave as well. And now there's some new guy who's coming who's really bad. So I think their ratings are gonna really, really go downhill from it.

SPEAKER_03

And uh, but I think as well, um th the kind of revolution of Carl into this, you know, weird kind of populist figure. I think a big part of it is also the co-host. When he was there with Lisa, Lisa kind of brought him back to reality.

SPEAKER_05

Well, yes, that's my thoughts on Sarah, his co-host. Like, I don't mind her, but I always say, like, I feel like she's complicit in the bullshit because she just kind of allows him to spread his bullshit on the today show. She just laughs and she either just laughs it off or she doesn't really challenge him.

SPEAKER_03

Um but even Ali Langdon was the same. But like I think Lisa really and even it was who was it before? Jessica just right and even they had big fingers with the uh maternity leave or whatever it was. Um but yeah, I think that's also that played a really big part in it. And I think, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, anyway, it'll be interesting to see who Carl interviews next. I saw all these um things online, like next up he's gonna interview the ghost of Jeffrey Epstein or like Adolf Hitler and shit like that.

SPEAKER_02

It's just like it's really just shock values, just getting the spectacle.

SPEAKER_03

I know, but I and I remember when he studied this, I kind of thought it was a bit of satire. Like, is he just doing this to rage bait people because type of thing?

SPEAKER_05

Well he is, and and you know what, there is actually a lane to rage bait people, but I think you need to do it in a way that's healthy, in the sense that, you know, we can sit here and clip farm and rage bait about you know how we don't like Michael Jackson, but in the end of the day, you know, who cares if we like Michael Jackson or not? No one's being harmed, there's no real massive negative thing being promoted, but it's very different rage bait rage baiting people with Michael Jackson compared to rage baiting people with someone who's been locked up in prison and has been accused of all this shit. Do you get what I'm saying? I mean, maybe Michael Jackson should be there, but that's a discussion from there. But you get what I'm saying? Yes, I talk about Michael Jackson and having that as our engagement bait is very different to engagement about a guy who's grounded in facts. Yeah, but and as well a guy who's been found to like bash Muslims and shit. Like this is very different engagement.

SPEAKER_03

And I but it's yeah, he he has no pushback, and to be fair, it wasn't just a Tommy Robinson pocket, he's just not on the Albany when Albanese went on, he only had pushback on it. Which I find like so he obviously knows those journalistic skills, it's not like he's lost that it's selective, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's selective because he's trying to push into it. And that's what the issue is. As I said, he's trying to tap into anger and he's trying to monetize off of that. Um

Hate Comments

SPEAKER_05

speaking of rage bait and engagement bait, and speaking of podcasts, um, we thought that it would be interesting to react to hate comments. So if you have been on our TikTok, you would have seen people who are very animated against us. And I've managed to go through, I think we have any so I can we had a we had a video about um Pauline Hanson the Socceroos last week, a clip from the podcast, and uh people weren't feral. There was like 240 comments, but apparently a lot of her commenters are like bots from like Philippines. Yeah, the Philippines. Well they're just all saying Pauline for PM of Orange Heart. Pauline, I love Pauline. So anyway, I thought I'd read out some of the ones, um, some of the best ones. So, you know, we we have simple ones like dickhead, wake up, mate, grow up, not true fake news, you silly you silly little boy. What a load of rubbish, tool. All these young Labour and Greens kids have no idea. Idea is spelled I D E A R. What is going on at the moment? Give them 15 years of working and they will change spell chang their minds. Um get off the soy milk, mate. I actually found almond milk, which is I'm not gonna soy milk. I think almond milk is my go-to because I'm so intolerant actually, and I don't know why the I buy it. You know, usually I just go for the real thing and just shit myself. But you know, I have found almond milk is the best other time. My mom drink drinks um almond soy milk. I've never drank soy milk, so I don't know. Sorry. Some of them are good, yeah. If you're funny, like fair enough. If you're just gonna say like dickhead, like sure, okay, that's great. But like you've got to be a bit more creative. You're gonna spell correctly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and to be fair, Neil, who has an Australian flag and he's about 60 years old, did did spell that right.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, good on your neil.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, on your kneel. Seriously, grow up, stop being disingenuous. Appears any clown and their mate can spout crap on a podcast these days. So you're not a clown, you're just the mate of a clown. This bullshit. Oh my god, what leftist school did you go to? Oh god, trust me, we're gonna go back to the city. Oh, for fuck's sake, be quiet. You're a fool, you need help, mate. Lowest IQ take I've ever heard. Ah, yes, the woke left who believe in unicorns and rainbows, telling us all what we can and cannot do. Are these idiots for real? And this is another good one. Brainwash little man. I've never been called little in my life, so you know what? I'll take that as a compliment. Um do you want to be little?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'd like to be a little muckle.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, muckle. Um sweetie, you don't have a clue. Dumbest bloke on TikTok. You can always trust the lefties to twist and contort the facts just to justify their hypocritical ideologies. This was spelt correctly, so we'll give that to him, and he used a full stop. So fair enough.

SPEAKER_03

What was the comment? Sorry, that comp what was that? Uh lefties always twist and contort the facts and all that. Uh since he spelled it correctly, I'll give him the time of time of day. Um I think though, like, that's even that in admission that what we're saying is in some realm correct.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I think as well, look, the issue right now, things are so polarized because people can't agree on the same information and facts, right? We used to have a lot more like clear sources and stuff like that, where we could all agree with the same facts but interpret the facts differently. But the issue with social media is the fact that people are working on different facts. It's as simple as that. So, you know, I would argue my facts are correct because they're based in evidence, but I'm sure he would also argue the same thing, so good luck to him. Um, proof again that podcast equipment should require a license. What a daft take on two completely separate and irrelevant topics. No, you're just a tosser. What a fool. Surprise he doesn't have a tea towel around his neck. What the fuck does that mean? Like the cafe R. Is that what he means? Or does he mean something else? Tea towel around his neck, maybe. Um and then this is the best one. Are you pregnant, mate? So there we go. What's that two? Uh that was from Anthony Kautal. Um, what an idiotic idiot. Nasokarus are garbage, mate. We love the AFL, mate. Just tell me that you're a fucking homosexual without telling me. AFL people are so weird. Any grub with a camera and a microphone is a fucking expert these days. I mean, I'm not far off, am I? Um When did Lego men start talking? And why is podcast equipment so readily available? You're not very bright, are you? These Muppets saying this crap full stop. How many comments are there? I have quite a few, but we're halfway through. They give any idiot a platform, and that's the problem these days. I see, I this is one of my favourite ones because it infers that we have a platform in the first place. Do you get what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, you're right. Like I think that's quite complimentary. Woke lefty alert. Um be quiet, you Harry Oofta. This guy is so out of touch with reality, it's crazy. To even bring up sport is a stretch because obviously you've never played it. See, that's alright. That's you know, I'll give him that. I have played soccer though. I've played it for all of my primary school. Who cares what you say? You're just a lefty troll. We can do whatever we want because this is Australia champ. Silly little child, idiot, you're full of bullshit. Stop talking crap.

SPEAKER_03

Dumbest person on TikTok of being very libertarian and they're having issues with podcast equipment whatever. Exactly, I know interesting.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, free speech, free speech until it goes against them. Hey. Um, someone said, what a flop. I mean, that's the whole point, isn't it? I think you're an idiot. These are the dumbest points ever. Getup wasted their money on your video. Trust me, we're not being funded by Getup, but if GetUp wants to fund us, they're more than welcome to. Um, get a job clown, hypocrites, numb nuts. Not you need that dumb nuts. Numb nuts. Like you're not your nuts and numb. Numbs. Oh, right, right, right. Ah, yes, brainwash little kids. Your arguments are so pathetic. Any wanker lefty can do a podcast. Fake news, ridiculous notions. Oh, another Muppet from the left. When you reach puberty, you make understand what's happening around you. I know people are really tricky. They're saying left and they're saying woke. Lol, you're a ding-dong. Um, that was like a seven-year-old man as well. You guys definitely can't get any pussy. Engagement bait. We've got to start making podcast equipment more expensive. This is on our Michael Jackson thing now. We then had a guy called Alex comment, like, it's really interesting because these aren't just insults.

SPEAKER_03

These are just like people having four like Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05

Well, yeah. The the difference between the Pauline Hansen one and the Michael Jackson one, they're the two videos that you have the most hate, which for those who don't see the videos on our socials, they're just clips from the podcast. Um, the Pauline one, people were just really angry, just like calling us like dickhead, all of that. They were just name-calling. Which is fine, it's funny. But the Michael Jackson one, they're quite vicious in the sense that they're like they're actually trying to engage with like the stuff at hand, which you know, I'll give them that. Um, so there was some guy called Alex who commented on like five different accounts, and then he got all those little friends to comment as well. Um, he thinks he's some influence or whatever, he has like 50k or whatever, he probably bought the followers. All he does is go thrifting, which anyway, you know, good luck to him. He's not gone far in life, poor guy. So he said, genuinely take this down. Um, someone else said, Podcast mics before a pen license is wild. Did you ever get your pen license? You're the type to never get your pen. See, I got my pen license.

SPEAKER_03

But no, only my I don't forget, only my primary school got a pen license.

SPEAKER_05

I was second. Uh the other was a friend, I'll have to tell you after. See, this is that's interesting. Um and then someone said, Yeah, okay, with a zoomed-in photo of your face. Um, a duo's echo chamber, someone said, which I like that one, because I want to get that comment a duo's echo chamber frame to put it somewhere. What is an echo chamber? It's exactly what it is. Um, any everyone thinks they can have a podcast nowadays. Who let them start a podcast? Who the fuck genuinely listens to you, lads? That guy's about 60. And then in brackets, let's start a podcast and run our mouths. That's exactly the point. Never crack the code. Two clowns have microphones. It's time for you boys to go back to preschool kitties. Alban Easy, please add a 67,000% tax on podcasting equipment. They really need to increase the price the price of podcasting equipment these days. And then someone was making fun of the way you speak by saying, My thoughts on your performance is that you should probably shower before filming. Yeah, this one's just a baby now. So there we go. There's our comments. And then there were also a few crazy comments, but we already spoke about them briefly in the end of one episode. Yeah, they're crime family. Where people were like accusing us of being part of like a mob and a crime family who tried to like rob the Jackson estate and stuff like this. So anyway, look, I know like a lot of people like read through all them comments and think, like, holy shit, like, why does everyone hate you? And like, you know, I ask myself that question sometimes as well. But um, no, look, I think, you know, our kind of strategy when it comes to uploading like clips, TikToks, reels, stuff like that, is very much so engagement bait, which these people obviously take. You know, I personally're saying it for the sake of engagement bait either. No, it's something we would already speak about, but then I might like format it a bit differently so. We're not gonna just upload random clips. Exactly. What I kind of do is I kind of think, you know, because we have the the topics that we are gonna speak about um for the day. I kind of think, okay, what's an interesting topic? I choose one, and then I kind of think roughly what I'm gonna say. It's still not scripted, but then I get here, I say it, and what I do is I start with a big bold statement. You're right. It's a bit, you know, radical, a bit out there to engage people. That's the first thing they see within a second of scrolling, and then I elaborate on it because basically people want to stay for the elaboration because it's like the payoff. They want to, you get what I'm saying? They want to find out how I had that initial hypothesis. So that's kind of my strategy. But I mean, you know, we're not gonna upload boring clips. We want to upload clips that engage people that you know uh makes them feel emotional, whether it's anger, whether it's happiness, funny, sad.

SPEAKER_03

People go up to us and say, Oh, there's so much hate on your video, like whenever they feel they feel a bit bad. No, that is the point. That is the point.

SPEAKER_01

But like it's no, but it's not even that right. Like it's like you got you just have to take it. Take it up the chin, take it on the chin.

SPEAKER_05

Like no reading this. Like, literally the point is because the more they comment, the more they comment, the better our engagement is. So sometimes, like on TikTok and stuff, you get rewarded for like saying the most outlandish shit. Yeah, right. And like, as I said, I'd much rather our outlandish shit be about Michael Jackson than having you know a guy who bashes Muslims on. So, like, you know, there's the difference between our our engagement bait and other people's engagement bait. But anyway, and you know, I think, you know, I think some of our clips do quite well. Like, I'm I'm not ever annoyed about the performance, I think, considering it's a small podcast on a low production budget. I think we we do alright. So I think we do as well. Especially on TikTok. Uh Instagram's harder to appeal to, but anyway. So, anyway, there we go. There is our episode for today. Thank you for listening. We will be back in two weeks, um, and we will have to see what what happens then to speak about. I really, really hope that Taylor Swift did get married, because otherwise our episode would have been a real pickle. Um, because can you imagine if we have to upload this and she just didn't get married? No. She has to be getting married. So you guys would already know, so you're already ahead of us. Anyway, thank you for listening. Thank you. Thank you for watching.

SPEAKER_03

Oh god, that chicken.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I think we're Christmas in July. What about it?

SPEAKER_05

It's just spit it out, come on. Come on. Okay, we're gonna have to make it. Okay, we need to get him urgent medical attention.

SPEAKER_03

So I I feel like sorry, just a second, I I've I've got to get it. Hurry up. Okay, hurry up. Christmas in July feast. What are what what are our thoughts?

SPEAKER_05

I think that it's a lot of food for a lot of money. That's my thoughts on the KFC Christmas and July feast. Yes, there we go. What's your thoughts? Go quick. Sum it up in one word. One word. Give us one word, go. Ambivalus. Fuck off.

SPEAKER_01

Next week. Well, I wonder what food we should do next week.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

Tell us people what food you want us to review and we'll do it. Well, I want to do that.

SPEAKER_03

Perfect idea. I know what I'm gonna call it. Perfect idea. That order Facebook Marketplace food. Oh my god, it's giving me t.

SPEAKER_05

Can you imagine we're gonna have some like South African food? That's been all over my page. Yeah, because people order in like food from Facebook Marketplace and they deliver it to your door and shit.

SPEAKER_03

I know. And I have it, I'm at it's a double-edged sword because I think they should be getting taxed because they're making money.

SPEAKER_05

But at the same time, at the same time, do we really want to be able to do that?

SPEAKER_03

And also, sorry, I shouldn't have started with that because I that's genuinely not my first concern. My first concern genuinely is the WHS. Yeah, work health and safety. God knows what's going on in those kitchens.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, can you imagine? Anyway, we'll have to see. Next time you see us, we'll have a feast in front of us. So that's all you need to do. And we're going to um state conference. Yeah, we're going to New South Wales State Conference this weekend.

SPEAKER_03

Um, take conference.

SPEAKER_02

What the fuck are you doing? Thank you.

unknown

Thank you.