Introduction

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My mother left me outside a church in a busted. I've never seen her again after I bring myself up my.

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Welcome to the Oliver Wilde experience featuring Oscar Thompson. Here, controversial public figure Oliver Wilde unpacks the forces of money, power, sex, and culture in candid conversations with embattled party planner Oscar Thompson.

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Hello everyone and welcome to the Oliver Wild Experience featuring Oscar Thompson, Money, Power, Sex, and Culture. And today we are joined by a very, very special guest. We are joined by someone who has described himself as Australia's favourite celebrity, quite rightly. He is a math superstar, social media sensation, a magazine magnet. We are joined by the one and only NASA Salton. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming on, we really appreciate it. So um we're sure that our viewers already probably know quite a lot about you, but would you also like to kind of run through what you've done? Um where do I start?

SPEAKER_03 1:04

Do I go back to like when I was young, young to now, or do I if you want to, sure. Alright, so originally I've never been on TV like before MAFS.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

But I started a company called Nightmare Music, and uh we produced festivals, music festivals all over the country, toured bands for about 30 years. Yeah. And then I sort of moved to Bali for about six, seven years. And uh and I'm sitting like by the pool side, as you as you do, yeah. And this thing came up on on the phone that says, Oh, married at first sight, like apply for this show. Yeah. And I thought, you know what, let's just do it. Yeah, why not? I'm in Bali by the pool, getting a tan, you know, why not do it?

SPEAKER_02 1:50

You need to be adventurous. You need to be adventurous. You gotta try things.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

So I sort of filled out the form and um and left it, forgot all about it. Yeah, then um about three weeks later, I think, or one month later, I get an email saying, Hey NASA, we'd love to have you on. We looked through your thing, yeah. You're definitely suited. This was the season before the one I was on. So this was early stage of marrying the first son. Yes, yes. And I thought, great, I said to them, I'd I'm in Bali though. Oh no, don't worry, we'll fly you over, we'll get you. Perfect, fantastic. Yeah, I know. Someone's actually gonna put me on Jet Star and take me back. So I flew in and I flew in straight into, they picked me up, flew in straight into the um the interview, yeah, and it was we're sort of in a warehouse at Redphone, yeah, and it was it's actually really cool, you know, met all the so-called experts. Yeah, um, but back then they weren't called experts, they were called psychologists, right? Therapist, psychologist, and sex therapist. That's what they do, sex therapist, uh, psychologist, um, relationship expert, you know, all that stuff. Um, and I had a meeting and everything, and it was so funny, it went like I probably was the longest interview, yeah. And they loved it, absolutely loved it, because I was unhinged, yeah, yeah. Right. So, and at the end of the ratings, yeah, actually. And I said, And they said, Oh, is there have you got a question for us, blah, blah? And I turned around to the three, the three so-called experts, yeah. And I said, Now listen here, you people, right? If you can't find your wife, yeah, right, you shouldn't even be in this business. Exactly. Because that's that's their job. I said, I said your job. I said, I've tried Tinder, I've tried all those apps. Bumble wasn't around back then. Yeah, and and anyway, they laughed. I left, went back to Bali, and they said a month later or something, they said, Oh, you got in, you're in, we got your we were. Can you come back? Yeah, yeah. So we came back and um left everything packed up and I thought this is gonna be great, three months, what have I got to lose? Yeah, exactly. And um came back and I could not believe it. It was supposed to start on a Monday filming. I get a call on a Friday saying, You're not gonna believe this, NASA, but we can't have you on because the girl that we matched you with pulled out.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Okay, so you flew all the way to Australia and then they wow then I said she pulled out.

SPEAKER_03 4:14

We haven't got a a person to come to step in. Uh we'll keep you on the record, you know, that rubbish. And I was so pissed off. Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Because I left everything, you know, and um I found out that she was a corporate and that her uh business or her work didn't want her to be part of this year. Yeah, okay. Yeah, mind you, I had no idea what married the first series back then. Then two years later, yeah, or something I get another email saying, Hey, we got your records, the producers love it, we definitely want you on. So, you know, back up I came back and you were a bit more hesitant that time because uh I I didn't believe it.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

I'm like, really?

SPEAKER_03 4:55

Yeah, we want you on, blah blah blah. Can you we'll start you know the interviews, all that over and over again. And I said yes, and and it snowballed from then, and as they say, rest is history.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Exactly. And then so even before that, how did you end up living in Bali?

SPEAKER_03 5:11

I we because we were doing festivals and tours, so it was like I surf, so I thought, you know what, this is cheap. Yeah, I might as well go there. I can do all the stuff on computer, you know, yeah, exactly. Yeah, um, and I don't need to be here. What do you need to be here? And that's how it ended up. So you sort of get up funny hours to communicate with overseas, yeah, and then you surf and then come back in the afternoon, late at night, and you communicate, you know. And then when the tours were here, I'd fly back in early.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Yeah, so a lot of Australians went over to Bali during COVID and stuff just because it's as you were saying, yeah, it's cheaper and also the the kind of freedom and vibe around it.

SPEAKER_03 5:49

It is now it's changed. Like now I would never like I don't advise anyone to go there to live there, really. Living there and and visiting is two different things, yeah. You know, you can't party every night, you can, but you can't, you know, you can't sort of do what the tourists do every night, even though it's there's freedom, yeah. So but you've got to sort of know, okay. Well, I've got to live like a local, yeah, find your money, don't go out too much, eat simple. Yeah, exactly. And everyone's transient, you know? No one wants to hang out with you. Six years, I've never made friends.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

Yeah, see that's the thing. No one's no one wants you. You you grew up then obviously in Australia, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:25

No, I'm Egyptian background, Egyptian, yeah. Uh came here when I was 13. Right. Okay, wow. So quite yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

So I didn't grow up here at all. And and then how did you find that moving to Australia back then?

SPEAKER_03 6:38

Well, my parents were in politics over there. So you know, the f my father, his brother and uncle. So it was sort of it was easy. We could have moved anywhere in the world, really. Yeah, you know, you got looked after when you're in politics. Yeah, exactly. And then my mother said, you know, my brother's over in Australia, it's a young country, let's just go and try and blah blah blah. So we didn't we ended up staying.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

Yeah, and it looks like it's paid off. It's an Australian success story.

SPEAKER_03 7:02

Well, excess now, Australia's favorite slim. It's taken 40 years, you know, 45 years. And now I I can claim that status and claim the OG of reality TV. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

He's been on it since day one.

SPEAKER_03 7:16

Yeah, yeah. Think about it. Who do you remember from Big Brother this year? No one. Thank you. Who do you remember from from um um MAFS last year? No one.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Yeah, I don't know. Exactly, but everyone remembers you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and that's the thing as well, like you you got the ratings up, you got everything going.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

So I got everything going, and I and I was, you know, I I did every radio interview in Australia, no one's ever done it. Every every magazine, every radio, every because I was sort of, I think I was approachable and I can talk.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Definitely where the others can't talk, yeah. Yeah, exactly, because they're also stage, you know, they have their facades, but like right now, like look, we're having a great conversation, there's no yeah, you know what I mean?

One Word Association

SPEAKER_03 7:56

So where the others, I think, you know, well we'll we'll touch on that later on how to stay relevant. Yes, and this is the most important part, and I can give you a big secret how I stayed relevant, yes. You know, and so we'll talk about that later on.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Alright, so now we're gonna play a one-word association game with NASA. So basically just explaining it to everyone at home. Uh, we will read out someone's name. NASA's gonna attempt to describe them in one word, and you're more than welcome to elaborate on why. So I'll start with the first few, then I'll pass it over to Oliver. So the first one is Beck from this season of Married at First Sight.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Uh fake, um putting it on, loser. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Any elaboration or is that?

SPEAKER_03 8:38

Yeah, well, she look, it's all um, you know, as they say, well, as I say, good from a farm for farm from good. Yeah, yeah. Right? She hasn't got the brains to continue. You can only use your Botox and your boobs and your friggin' whatever for so long, and people get sick of it. Yeah, you know, to me it she reminds me of the house housewives of a gold coaster. Yeah. You know, that show the housewives of a coast. Yeah, yeah, no, I've seen that.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

That's what she reminds me of. Okay, well, the next one is Donald Trump.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Donald Trump is I think he is uneducated. I really do. I think he's uneducated, he has no idea about world politics and and anything to do with with being um not nice, but being um a business person. Yeah, and I'm not talking business running a business because he's a failed businessman, yeah, but I'm talking about there's a word, you know, when you're um a statesman, yeah, he's not a statesman, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:35

He's not diplomatic, right?

SPEAKER_03 9:36

He's not diplomatic. I I do believe that he got in by fraud, I'd really do, because there's no way you would vote for someone like that, right? Yeah, exactly. I think they they rigged the the votes this time, they really did. In 2024, yeah. I really did. I think they rigged the vote, and I also believe that if he thinks that the the Arab and the Muslim world is gonna sit back and gonna take all this, I can tell you now, ladies and gentlemen, you are fucking dreaming. Because these people for 40, 50, 100 years have been in wars. Yeah, they know what war is. Oh, yeah, exactly. So if you kill ten, another ten will come. Oh, yeah. They don't understand you will never win in the Middle East, never. Yeah, look at Afghanistan, look at Iraq, look at Libya, look at all those countries. Yeah, but it's all for the safety, as they say, of Israel, which I think it's bullshit. Yeah, exactly. Because it's not for the safety of Israel, yeah, because Israel wants to dominate that whole region, right? Now, but but on the other hand, right, if the dumb ass Arab people, right, in fucking Saudi Arabia, Kuwait get together and Oman and get together and say, hang on a minute, you're killing our brothers and sisters. Yeah, we're not gonna put up with it. Trust me, Israel will be finished. But unfortunately, they're all in the Epstein files, yeah, yeah, right, and they're too scared to put their hand up. Yeah, so I can tell you now in front of everybody, I support Iran for this. I really do. And I every time I hear something, good on you, Iran. Yeah, because if you look at their PM, the most lovable person in the world, very calm, very intelligent, speaks well, never bags out anyone, never says we're gonna kill you, you bastards, if you don't open the straight.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

No, no, no. I think the way Trump communicates as well, like as you were saying, it's just not statesman like that. And I think it just I actually think people become so polarized in the fact that people are now supporting Iran just because they don't like Trump. He gets people on the other side. Yes, he's almost doing the opposite of what he actually defending.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

What about America? They're starving, they're they're living in the streets. Look after your own country. Same with here, like look after here. Don't worry about these people overseas. We're here. We we live here, we we got kids here, we got uh you know, food. Look after this country.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Yeah, well, he was elected to put America first. And it seems like all he's done is put America first. Yeah, it wasn't. He's there to do Israel first. He's there for the oil. He's not there. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

And I believe that, I really do. And I think you know, when a man um uh gets beaten, that it it's exactly what you're hearing. They start sending threats because they know they're getting.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

The wheels are falling off now. You can you can see that he's just starting to get really.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

And come on, you guys are younger than me, you know, like you guys are younger than me, you're the next generation that to kind of take this over and move this forward. Yeah, you don't want to see this shit. I don't care where you come from. Exactly, yeah. If it wasn't for for multiculturalism in this country, you wouldn't have an Indian dinner, you wouldn't have a friggin' South African dinner, you wouldn't have an a Lebanese dinner, you wouldn't have any of that shit. Yeah, exactly. You'd still be eating um chips and burgers. You know, so that's that's that's my word on Donald Trump.

SPEAKER_02 12:48

Yes, the the next one, the next one's a good one. Um the next one is the one and only Cyclone Cyril.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

Oh my god. She, you know, I sort of we we never saw eye to eye. Yeah. Never saw eye to eye, right? I think I really think she's fake. Right? She's definitely fake. I never saw eye to eye with her. Um she thinks that she's a staros of some sort. Well, I don't think so. Um you can't, she's tried to be an influencer, you're not gonna pull it off. I just can't warm to this person, yeah. And it's not just what she did, I couldn't care, I just can't warm to her. Whenever I hear something, I just look at it and go, You just don't know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Yeah, so do you think that she's performative? Do you think she's putting on an act to try and get a child? I think she's putting on an act, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

You know, like like I I try to attend everything. I attend everything, right? Yeah, because I want to be seen. Yeah, fair enough. And my beliefs is that if you're a fucking star, if you say you're a star, be a star. Yeah, right? I say I'm Australia's favourite celebrity, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

I'm out, I am you're acting like it, you're doing it, so you're working for it.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

Thank you very much. I turned red carpets, yeah, I see people, blah blah blah. Yeah, flying around the country. She never goes out to anyone.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

And I remember when we were doing interviews and and getting invited, it's like, oh, am I getting paid for this? Am I getting paid for this? Hey, I'm here now, I'm not getting paid for this. Do you know what I mean? You've got to give her a lot of it. I think, you know, it's it's sort of nah.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

Okay. Well, the next one, the next one's slightly more closer to Australia, but Anthony Albanese.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

Mate, Anthony Albanese would have to be he's a mate. He's not a pro prime minister, right? He's a mate. He fell into the job because nobody no other bastards are strong enough to talk and take this country forward. Um I I think we're in trouble. I think we're in trouble. That he doesn't know he can't make a decision. You need to make a decision, right? Um he's lucky he's lasted that long. It's only because the liberals can't find anyone that is normal. Yeah, they're shocking. They can't find anyone that's normal. Um, you know, he if if there was someone else uh comes up tomorrow, Albert Mese will be gone.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

So what do you know his treasurer, Jim Chalmers? There's quite a few.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

Yeah, he looks like Goma Powell. Have you ever seen Gomer Powell? Remember Gomer Powell? Do me a favour, ladies and gentlemen. You guys remember because I'm old. Go and Google Gurma Powell. It was a TV series, black and white, and Gurma Powell was in the Navy in America. Okay. And he and he's exactly like Jim Chalmers. It's Goma Powell. So you kids?

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Yeah. Google him and you'll go, oh my god, Nassan's right.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

So do you think it's like the whole Labour government as itself or just Albanese?

SPEAKER_03 15:39

He is the leader of that government. Um, the rest are just uh trying to keep their jobs.

SPEAKER_04 15:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:45

Right? They'll say and do anything to keep their job. You think about it, if you're on 200,000, 300,000 plus spurks, where would you want to go? And remember, these people have never had a business, have never had a job, really. Straight from university, right? Straight to politics. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

It does depend on the the cabinet minister though. Some do have experience in business and stuff, but Albanese did come from university yet.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

Yeah, but straight into he never fucking worked at McDonald's or or come from the hard hard yards. And all this about, oh my mother was in the housing commission. Hey mate, when we came to Australia, we were in the housing commission.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:18

I don't go on about it.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

Yeah. Do you not think that he's using that as a bit of a story? Yeah, of course. Can you reclaim it because it's a bit like, well, I think that that's a good message to send out. No, we've heard it.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

You say it once, said it twice, we've heard it. We know where you come from, we don't care. I want to know where my fucking paychecks come from. Yeah. I want to know that my petrol and my kids or whatever, you know, are they going to be looked after? I want to know that I'm safe. Yeah, yeah. That's all I want. I want my leader to be safe before you get my backstory. Exactly. Yeah, of course. Exactly. That's what I want to know. And I just think he's weak, weak, weak, and he's up Donald Trump's ass.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Alright, I'll hand over the mic to you. Yes, well, the next one. Can you hold it? Yeah, sure. Well, the next one is Martha from Math.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

Oh fuck. She's finished. Is she still around? I don't even know if she's still around. Mate, she I call I was the first to call her Kmart Kim. I was the first ever picked up. You were and then other people have picked up on that. Yeah, and everyone's picked up on it. Kmart Kim, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Because she looked like Kim, Kim Kardashian, Kmart Kim. But she I used to say she's think she's Kmart Kim, but she hasn't got the purse that Kim Kardashian has, you know, the money. Mean and the resources. I haven't got anything. But she's quite down a lot. They got two kids now. I don't when I don't even hear anything from her. I don't see anything from her. You know, I I have no hate or love for her. I just think she's irrelevant. I think he's a doormat. Uh he tried to sort of be tough with me at the reunion, and I think I saw the reunion. The whole reunion was about me, you know, that the fucking ratings went through the reunion. Without me. Because they begged me to come. Yeah, I swear to God. Yeah, they begged me to become to that reunion. Um, but we'll we'll touch on that a little bit later. But yeah, she she's just really like gone, you know what I mean? It's been eight years, yeah. Gone.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

The next one is Scott Morrison.

SPEAKER_03 18:10

Scott Morrison's a liar, right? He's a Hillsong, he's a Hillsoner, he's a liar. Um, he I don't care about him having a holiday while the country's burning. I don't care about that. But he's just a liar, and um anything just to keep he's just lied to the country. He really has lied to the country, and he had the probably the Christian lobby behind him, you know. Because once you're in the Hillsong Church, you're you're sort of set. So I don't think much of him. I just wish these people you've finished now as a prime minister, you shouldn't be paid by the taxpayer. Yeah, yeah. You've got your pension pissed off. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's what I think of him.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Um Gia from this year is that.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

Gia, oh god. God, can we get enough boobs and enough Botox? Is there enough? I mean, those lips are gonna explode. They're gonna explode. She's the fakest person I've I've ever seen. She's so fake, and all these guys, all these things that I'm with him and I'm holding his hand, it's all fake for the media. But the media knows. I know the media backhand, I know who's doing these stories. They ring me and say, Oh my god, I can't wait for this to be over, blah blah blah. But it's their job to have to report to this trash because you know, uh Stephanie and and and Julie that lives at Campbelltown, right, that's got four kids, that sits down, that watches maths, want to know what Gia's doing, you know. But that's who who it's appealing to. Yeah, it's not appealing to Vaughn Clue's lady that's sitting there or City or Surrey Hills or whatever, it's appealing to the West, to the lower denominator.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

Do you think as well your season appealed to a different type of demographic, or do you think it's all the same everyone?

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Our season put that shit on the map.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

So every suburb in Sydney was.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

It's every suburb, and I'll tell you why, right? You had Aboriginal, you had Sri Lankan, you had Australian, you had um Irish, you had Egyptian, you had um Italian, you had all different cultures. Yeah, so that was the most successful season ever, and people will tell you that ever. And then the next season they did well, you know, with Martha Cyrelle, and and um Ennis, remember Ennis and all that, and they did well as well. And after that, they thought, oh shit, okay, then we have to do a scandal and we have to do a cheating everyone. It just doesn't work anymore.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Yeah, it's it's all fake and manufactured.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

That's it, fake and manufactured. I came up with a brilliant idea. Why don't we do this? You get uh nine, five guys, six guys, five, six girls, put them in the room, throw a party, and then you pick who you want to end up with.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Yeah, because then it's more natural. Yeah, pick love island.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

Yeah, just say you pick whoever you want, okay. Look, I'm really in love with Julie, and I think me and Julie would be going, oh, really? And then you see the experts. What do you think you're in love with Julie or you like Julie? Well, you know, we got on and she's into the music that I'm into, blah blah blah. And do it that way. Yeah instead of this picking bullshit. Because they're not picking for love.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

It's controversy.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Um the next one is Pauline Hansen.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

Oh, I used to be, you know, I'll tell you a secret, ladies and gentlemen. I used to have like dreams about Pauline Hansen having sex with. When she yeah, when she she there was a years ago, she used to wear these jeans, high-cut jeans, yeah, and she fuck, I used to dream about Pauline Hansen. I'm like, she's the hair and all? The hair and all, the whole life, and I'm like, you know, she's hot. Like, I'd love to screw Pauline Hansen. But now, five ten years later, I'm like, I can't deal with Pauline Hansen. But Pauline Hansen hasn't got any policies. Oh no, no. You vote for her, you've you might as well vote for the Taliban. You know, you know, no one's gonna get anyway. So forget Pauline Hansen, she's just a mouth, but unfortunately, she's got the bogans, and the bogan is the guy that drives the truck with no teeth and smokes a packet of dough.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Um you picked up on her before by En F. Ennis. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

Oh, I love Ennis. Ennis is Ennis. was great.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

You know, um she I remember when she was on the show she told her the guy she was with that she could she I can't stand you get away from me blah blah blah she's great she said it as it is unfortunately she just faded now I don't even know what she's doing. No meaning I don't know either but you you are right on that when I think about it oh yeah she was she was straightforward she didn't give a shit that's right you know um Bob Catter Bob Catter oh my god you know I I want him to stay because he sort of fights for the farmers yeah and then when he gets excited it's actually hilarious yeah right when he gets excited but he means nothing either let him stay in Queensland let him retire and die in Queensland with the sugarcane farmers that's fine keep him there yeah he's actually passionate more than Albanese I I think he's actually passionate you know and he's no no bullshit bobcatter yeah but you know that's why he's been around for a while been around for so long I don't think we're not a target demo no we're not now it's a Queenslander yeah we're in the city it's the guy that wears a hat goes like this with the flies that's his target um Olivia Fraser oh Olivia oh look Olivia Olivia had a good run you know what fucked her up is when she announced that she's gone on OnlyFans I really believe that I wish someone pulled her aside and said yeah don't do that do it private then she started to release these photos and then people shared the photos and the boyfriend with the photos remember doing all these sexual acts that's what destroyed her yeah and with that what what do you think generally about OnlyFans like OnlyFans it to me is a bit of a a fraud if you really want to see porn it's for free. Just put a porn movie on or go on internet. You don't need to see some but the fatuation with OnlyFans is that you know when you see someone like a newsreader on TV or you know like a like a um a celebrity or a um movie star and then all of a sudden oh my god I really want to see her take her clothes off and do blah blah blah that's the only the fatuation about it but otherwise she's like everybody else um Chris Minnesota Chris Minnes's days outnumbered I really do he's disappointed me when he sided with the Jewish community when that Bandai thing happened he didn't go straight to uh Lakimba mosque and go guys we need to start this oh no it's not your fault it's a a rogue person that did this some natter that did this but doesn't reflect on all the Muslims that he didn't do that yeah he stayed with the the the the Jews he he funded the Jews that paid money they did a memorial but he never did that to the Muslims hasn't he been on trips to Israel he's been on trips to Israel mate or paid by the Israel lobby yeah exactly and then even then with all that protest that's like we were at that protest yeah Palestinian side it's like mate and like the the misuse of police force that we saw was just it was just ridiculous because they want to make they wanted to be a fight yeah at that day I saw that and they wanted to fight yeah they were there to fight and then when they found out there was that fight then they started to pick on people pushing them around. Yeah it's all and they they're all good people as well there all the protests they're all great people these are grandmothers these are just normal people like like us like no we're not going to mate without them you wouldn't even know what's going on you know um Jackie from last season on math do you know Jackie oh yeah yeah she's finished she I I don't know if she's even still with what's his name Kent Rent whatever his name is I don't even know and mate the money he's got I hate to tell you champion I've got three times what you've got I can buy you and your family but I don't go around you know exposing that you know um Jacinta Allen Jacinta Allen um swings like a tree she doesn't know what day it is and doesn't know what which way to swing she just swings like a tree. Dean Wells uh Dean Wells oh god big Dino look I I don't mind Dean Wells I give him shit I do give him shit I don't mind him he's just a big like older you know the movie the Olga he's just a big older yeah you know and unfortunately Dean sorry but you are not a celebrity you try to be and you try to be controversial but you're not this is the celebrity Australia's favourite favourite um Clover Moore I hate her with a passion I hate her as much as Trump I really she lives across from me you know that she lives across yeah we're a building across from me and ladies and gentlemen and make sure this goes out um she only turns up when the chauffeur comes up right picks her up the chauffeur right she got all these bike paths if the chauffeur picks her up on taxpayers money she goes and probably cuts a ribbon says a few words and goes back home and then she bucks off yeah 300 000 a year for fucking what and and actually can I ask you guys something what does the Lord Mayor do we look at it what is that seriously what does a Lord Mayor do I think it's just like a glorified council so they're just doing with rates you know roads rubbish stuff like that but instead building all these fucking bike paths everywhere but you've got that the councillors do that you don't need a Lord Mayor that's yeah it's it's mostly probably ceremonial even then I think that's like yeah a referendum or something to remove that because it's just this is the thing as well NASA if you if you hate Clover Moore so much then why you should run in the 2020 I'd love to how do I run you know what we can help you there we go help it will be the candidate manager because I tell you make NASA great again yeah exactly that's it's like you know how they elected Zora Mamani was happy that's what we're gonna do we're gonna I would say you know my first point of call would be the no dickhead policy yeah exactly no dickhead policy you're a dickhead you're corrupt you're out you're gone simple simple as that's right simple as that we can line them up and we will personally know you you can't get corrupted of course buying out for the people that's right I'm here for the people Domenica Domenica Domenica loser loser tried everything to be relevant and to be up there yeah just lose her and if you have to keep commenting really on maths what do you what else you got to speak about nothing. And the last one Kamala Harris oh Kamala Harris she okay I'm not gonna blame Biden but I think Biden overstayed his his presidency he should have just said as soon as it was up for election he should have said to the American people ladies and gentlemen American people I'm gonna hand this over right now to Kamala Harris she's got four years to do this against Trump right and please support her but nah he gave her 12 months there's no way you can do this with 12 months right so she unfortunately just didn't couldn't convince the people that she was right. She's not right believe me she's fucking hopeless too but at least we would have had a woman in there and she wouldn't have started a war. Yeah we would have had a diplomat a diplomat wouldn't have had a war she's a diplomat she's not a president right do you think that they'll elect a female president anytime soon or do you think that will still be a while because the world's run by men yeah and the world's run by idiot men and the world's run by money hungry uh uh criminal men that run it that they're not run by women and you we saw that in Australia with um you know the the liberal leader that got ousted yeah Susan Lee I knew she was going to be ousted she couldn't have fucking balls yeah right and we had that we had a prime minister yeah yeah she got ousted got knife julia yeah yeah she wasn't bad she her hearts was in it unfortunately she was dating a gay man but pretending to be straight yeah um you know but no it's you know she was okay yeah Julia Gillard so do you think that then there's just generally a bias against women in politics I think so too I really do but you look at the women in politics now they're all like hideous they really are they're just there for the job they've got no fucking say you know I'd love to see you remember the the three trier that woman committed suicide and and um what's her name was part of it the help our foreign minister was part of it they called the three mean girls you remember that yeah they're accusing Pennywong yeah Pennywong and her two mates yeah and they drove that woman to to suicide so you don't like Pennywong aren't you?

Nasser's Advice

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Mate she's hopeless fucking just you know what Pennywong should do just go to the council Sydney City Council yeah step away go with your mate Clovermore joint ticket NAFA and start painting everything in the colours of Danus perfect perfect all right so we thought that we should um ask NASA for some general advice um let's start off with just asking advice more specifically about how would someone get into the show business industry how would someone get onto married at first sight what are the kind of things that they're looking for like how would someone even start if they wanted to build a career like yours if you if by now or any of those shows whether it's married at first sight whether it's Master Chef whether whatever show right you would have watched 13 years of this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

Yeah yeah put your application in make it a little bit sort of out there and you've got to have a sob story if you look at the narrative of these shows it's always a sob story yeah whether it's a wholesome family show or Legos or whatever it's always a fucking sob story. Yeah okay so because that's what the people love they love they want a sob story right they want that connection you got on the exact my sob story for advice for you guys if you want to go on these shows put this down in your application right my mother left me outside a church in a basket and um and and I've never seen her again and I had to like bring myself up by nuns in Ugidi. So is that your sob story?

SPEAKER_02 31:39

No use that use that there we go. Now all of a sudden Maths is gonna go why the fuck is everyone saying that they got left outside the church said left outside the church in the basket there we go might have to diversify some people have to say church some people have to say hospitals then that way we're not all submitting the same shit.

Audience Questions

SPEAKER_03 31:57

You've been left outside somewhere yeah yeah you've been left there we go um and then even then so then how do you think as well with social media because obviously social media plays a large part of all of this how do you think people break through on social media um be confident be assertive um just say what you feel saying don't worry about what to polish it don't polish it I never polish my videos and believe me I don't even know how to work half of my phone yeah so if I want to um a video posted I'll always ask a friend can you do this for but my videos and what I say is never polished so don't edit don't polish just put it on people want to see real yeah they want to relate to authenticity helps everyone except it's like NASA's my mate yeah I can relate to him he's a cool guy he's my mate not like NASA oh he put this on and he had to wear the no just say it how it is yeah as if you're more real people can identify with that you need to be yeah and approachable yeah exactly definitely and then um so then even with that what has your kind of experience been with dealing other dealing with the media and other people in the industry so how would you advise someone to kind of speak to the media get interviews how would you if you if you're on a show or any show or anything right always be nice to the journalist because they will make or break you 100% right always be nice. When I turn up and I do a lot of red carpet events and stuff and I love it. People go oh you go to an opening of an envelope yes I do right hey free champagne photographers some media people out and see me right I think if you're a if you think you're a celebrity or you are a celebrity you need to be seen yeah out don't hide don't turn up just to oh one event here turn up to every event people want to say oh this person is really nice right yeah so the thing is the media is your friend right whether they write good or bad just be friends and the first thing I did when I got off the show is I sided with the media yeah so I always gave uh interviews I was always available yeah can you do this and always always accessible yeah right and they love me and they help me to to get to where I am right because I've had the most if you look at um daily mail I reckon I've had the most uh stories ever of any reality TV person I've been I've had the most radio interviews TV interviews of any reality person because I'm I'm friends you know it's like yes I'll do it and I don't look down at them if you want to take a photo take a photo if you want to just do this you know exactly it's about flooding the zone it's all that stuff do you think though um the media is kind of like a monolith or do you think it's like an individual um group like do you think the Daily Mail is different to another news yeah yeah no it's individual it's definitely individual and if someone likes you they'll hang out with you and blah blah blah if they don't like you well they're not gonna write about you other you know unless you've got some scandal yeah media love scandal oh 100% you know give them a scandal so what remember I don't know if you guys remember but this was I faked that meme being gay and got paid five thousand bucks really yeah what was the context did they well the thing is uh new idea or uh women's weekly or whatever it was I can't remember yeah um they said would you pretend to be gay yeah and we'll pay you because their room out back then when I said oh NASA must be gay because I was the only one didn't have sex with my bride everyone else had sex with them I didn't so I must be gay because you know I'm moisturized I'm not gay at all I just put that on okay yes um you know so because I moisturize and I look after myself yeah at my age so people thought okay gay gay but I'm not gay but it just I said yep I'll do it so we set up this gay thing and took photos it was front covers everything so was it with like a guy or something yeah it was it was a guy right NASA must be gay you know and we pretended to walk upstairs together we did this story and it went worldwide. Yeah and the first day the first day the story got released half a million hits and the guy from New Idea rang me the editor and said mate I have never seen anything like it skyrocket all over the world and still now NASA pretended to be gay for 5,000 bucks you think I had to look this up I know as well um well he sort of didn't know the poor boss said he disappeared he yeah he didn't he didn't know it all he disappeared wait so he thought he ranked his job and everything you he thought you were being genuine or being genuine really shit oh wow five thousand bucks is five thousand bucks I didn't have to sleep with anyone I made five thousand bucks I didn't have to I didn't have to shell my my pee pee yeah no exactly so there you go there's the advice if you if you want to do well on social media just pretend to be gay yeah pretend to be gay hi your mate get the media call up daily mail easy easy and done perfect okay NASA we're now gonna move on to questions from our lovely viewers um the first one is do you regret anything you said or did on the show or do you stand by all of it? Never never ever ever I stand by everything I said I haven't changed in eight years um and I haven't uh um you know moved to be a a favourite or to change my style or the way I speak to get further I couldn't care so no because aren't you going on um math UK or you've applied well I've applied for it um hopefully I do get it yeah yeah because if I do get it it'd be like not just Australia's favourite celebrity it'd be fucking world domination it would open you up to all these new audiences it would you know that and I would be perfect for it I really would yeah because I've already knew that the one question they are they'll ask is like what are you looking for? Yeah right and my answer now is that I'm looking for um an English girl with big tits and has a few like loves a few luggars. There you go there you go we'll even put that we'll put this big tits big tits right and loves a few laggers yeah yeah um the next question is who is the fakest person in the industry and why oh the fakest but mate's a big industry if we're talking TV I think they're all fake to be honest but I think Carl Stefanovic would have to take the thing I just think that guy is time's up because Channel 9 sacked him I don't know if you guys remember then they brought him back because I they couldn't afford to pay him out I think but I I think Carstaffanovic is a I mean who watches the morning show well isn't he going on to ARN now to replace um that's what their rumor that's what the rumour is yeah yeah but I mean who's gonna listen to it you know like fuck it what do you think about the podcast that he's doing because he's not all these right wing extremists yeah but the rubbish he's trying to be like that American guy Joe Rogan he's like Joe Rogan but he can never it's rubbish you can you can you run out of these people yeah definitely um the next one is you're known for being outspoken do you think that's confidence or ego not there's no that well not com not confidence and not ego right it's the truth it's the way I see it it's the way I I say it and I say things that people are too afraid to say so people message me oh my god did you see this I go yeah I saw that and I'm gonna talk about it so it's not it's not ego at all it's not confidence at all it's just what I think perfect and then as well so that kind of this question kind of adds on to that but how much of NASA is real versus a personality built for TV or do you think that I think 100% is real 100% is real yeah yeah because even like my experience just obviously chatting with you now off camera you're you're exactly the same person.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

And I think that's why as well you're so successful especially on TV because you're just you're genuine.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

Oh there's no shelter there's no fakeness you know everyone's out there and they they can't be themselves but I feel like yeah you're you're and I I just think in a world that's kind of dominated by cancel culture and stuff like that as well someone like Nasser who speaks the truth and says what he thinks is just kind of put that like I remember like on the reunion how they were all kind of attacking you and you just say don't read it. Yeah that's what you said.

SPEAKER_03 40:00

And I thought that's what you I thought that was a very good point exactly simple they're going oh you you you're a troll you're this I go no no no no I'm commenting yeah yeah be putting a comment and trolling is two different things I'm not following your path I'm not following everything you do or or or posting everything that you say and go this is bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

No you just come up and I go this is bullshit yeah you know and I think they called you a troll just because they don't want to be held accountable. Yeah people are afraid of accounting accessibility you get what I'm saying and as well like you know when when you don't get into some people's narratives it's just they they don't know how to approach you.

SPEAKER_03 40:34

Yeah I think that's and they wanted me to apologise and I wouldn't apologize.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Well I'm not going to apologise you're losers anyway once this is finishing if you're saying what you genuinely believe to be the truth then why should you apologise? They should apologise to you they should apologise and thank me for getting the fucking rap.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

They would be no one without you they would you know these clips would not have gone viral without NASA something because honestly when I saw it because I didn't see because I don't let you see anything but when I saw it and the in the and the the ads on TV were coming and they were saying so who do you hate the most or and everyone go NASA oh that bloody NASA I can't wait to get NASA and I'm like they made this on me like you know what I mean but I got tipped I got tipped off before I went in there. Yeah I got tipped off by journalists say they to that you know tonight's episodes about you.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

Yeah because even then like you know I and I I watched that clip they're all saying NASA this NASA that but in the end of the day the only thing NASA's doing is you're just you're you're getting filthy rich because you're getting all this attention they're saying they're exact they're feeding into exactly what you wanted but they don't realize they don't realize it that's right and they will never apologise.

SPEAKER_03 41:35

And then I said oh yes sorry okay well I apologize and they go no that's not good enough I go well I apologise.

SPEAKER_02 41:40

You could never have won they would never I would have never won yeah yeah no and then this this one actually kind of touches as well on what we were talking about before with MAPS UK but would you go back on reality TV if it meant risking your reputation again?

SPEAKER_03 41:52

100% answer absolutely reputation mean nothing I'm at an age where I couldn't give a shit. Yeah you know it's not like I have a job that I gotta go back to that I have children that I have to watch out or a you know family or whatever. I couldn't care I've got nothing to lose this is what these people don't understand.

SPEAKER_02 42:11

Yeah and do you think as well like with that has your then attitude changed significantly since you know when you first got that call for maps? Like have you kind of matured in the industry and kind of have you changed your approach a bit or do you still think like with age do you think that you've become a lot more of a loose canon in the best way possible more true to your stuff?

SPEAKER_03 42:32

Well I a bit more wary. I know the media very well I know how you get manipulated and how um they use it to to to you against you I know exactly how to do that and I can deal with that. I've always thought I would have been given more shows or given like look at fucking Nova right who listens to Nova seriously right that idiot that was on Big Brother you know the three of them whatever they call I can't remember who listens to them? No one listens to them right but if you got me for example if you got me on say someone like Nova or say me and Carl Sanderland together now that would be a great that would be I want to ask the audience your audience and you guys why does it have to be always a guy and a chick? Why can't things be two guys?

SPEAKER_02 43:22

Exactly so do you doing that would you then be keen on instead of Car and Jackie O, would you be keen on doing Kyle and NASA?

SPEAKER_03 43:28

Absolutely there we go because we because I don't mind him like I've been on that show constantly right used to you used to be every week I'll ring NASA to see what he thinks you know yeah um I would be perfect for that because he's got his opinion I've got my opinion but you don't need Jackie O to be to be there um and and say with Novas like you know give me give me a microphone and I will get you the friggin' ratings yeah I'll get people to talk you know it doesn't have to be sexual at all but we can talk normal of what's Going on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

And with your experience with Kyle, do you think he's kind of like you, like a Lewis Cannon, a kind of true himself? Or do you think he's a bit more performant? Well, he performs.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Yeah. Because radio, right? But I he's the same. Like I I just think, you know, I don't know, love him or hate him. Look, there's a di there's a thing on your dial that says turn off. Just turn it off. Like, you know what I mean? But I I I do believe a lot of it is for ratings, it is, which is fair enough. If you're running a a a radio show and you're getting paid shitloads of money, you want to perform.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

Yeah, no, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 44:32

So you're saying that. I I do. I I do. I mean, he has pushed it a bit far because remember, kids in the morning and Bub listen to that.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

You don't have to go to you don't have to s uh go down to the gutter.

SPEAKER_02 44:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

You can still be cool and funny. You can still be funny, but you don't have to get people to call in and say I had an affair on my wife, you know, on air. You don't have to really do that. There's ways around it, you know. You know what I mean? Like, so yeah, I think he's pushed it a bit too far, yeah, and it caught up with him. Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

Well, thank you so much, NASA, for coming and seeing us on this fantastic podcast. And he's given us fantastic shirts. Look at this. How good is this? In NASRI Trust. In Nasri Trust.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

Just remember that. Right? Remember that. If you want a t-shirt, let me know. Hit me up, and I'll send you a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

Is that is that the way that people can get them? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:24

Just go on my Instagram, send me a message and say, hey, I'd love a t-shirt. Pay for the postage five bucks. And you'll and I'll send you an express t-shirt.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Official NASA Sultan.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Oh, from me. They're not fake t-shirts, they're from China. You know, they're real t-shirts. Australian made, are they? Yeah, Australian made. Yeah, yeah, they're Australian made. Yeah. That's fantastic. They're not Chinese. You know, they're well products. So um there you go. So if you want to do that, hit me up.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

And then also on your social medias and everything. Yeah, yeah. It's all NASA Sultan.

SPEAKER_03 45:52

Yeah, official underscore NASA Sultan.

SPEAKER_02 45:54

Were there many people impersonating trying to be you? Is that why you're the official?

SPEAKER_03 45:58

Yeah, I'm that's why I'm the official. There wasn't when I got off the show, there was a lot of people doing um Instagram pages. Yeah. And people messaged me and go, is that you? Is that you? And I go, No, no, it's not me. So that's what I said. I'm the official, yeah. Official and Australia's favourite. So I mean there are. I mean, how high can you go? Fuck's sake, how high can you get?

SPEAKER_02 46:15

Within a few months, you'll be bigger than the UK. Well's exactly cross-fingers.

SPEAKER_01 46:20

Next Lord Mayor of Sydney as well.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

So much the good. I know, I know. So much to good. You know, when you're all doubly rich, doubly famous, just remember us. 100%.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

We'll come back to this room and we'll retouch on everything. Yeah, that's perfect. Well, thank you so much. My pleasure, thanks for having me. And you know, before we go, I wouldn't have done this to anybody else unless you know there was other things, but I came and you know, I'm in Surrey Hills to come in. I rode my scooter, by the way. I didn't drive because I was running late. But um, but I'm glad I did it. Hopefully it'll it'll go for pen customs.