Introduction

SPEAKER_01 0:01

The only fake cunts in this place are those two fucking cuntly encryption influencer wanna be fine.

SPEAKER_00 0:08

Welcome to the Oliver Wilde experience featuring Oscar Thompson. Here, controversial public figure Oliver Wilde unpacks the forces of money, power, sex, and culture in candid conversations with embattled party planner Oscar Thompson.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

Hello everyone, welcome to the Oliver Wilde Experience featuring Oscar Thompson. Money, power, sex, and culture. We're getting really good at that. That was basically 100% insane. Anyway, um, on the topic of audio, apologies if there's a bit of background noise this episode because it's about to piss down with rain outside and it's thundering. And I also walk into Oliver's house and there's 50 people here. I turn the corner um to say hi to his parents, and there's this big, big Greek guy called Nick, and his 50 Asian kids are running around like hanging up the lights and shit. Anyway, then I come upstairs and there's just all these people here, like people popping out of like wardrobes, cupboards, drawers. There's probably someone under the bed. Anyway. So it's like, you know the movie Home Alone? And running to go away. It's like that. And I don't even know where your dog is. No, no, I don't know either. I know. Anyway, so um on the topic of movies, actually, did you see this week? I would say one of the biggest things that happened this week was the new Spider-Man brand new Dave trailer. Have you seen it? Uh I thought it came out, I didn't watch it. Not at all. Well, it came out when we were at the Sheaf. Yes, and I watched it when we were waiting for our Uber. But let's not go into it. Um But no, so basically, I I thought it was an alright trailer, like I think it focused a lot more on character development for Peter and his character rather than advancing a specific storyline. Um, because we still don't really know who the villain is. To go a little bit nerdy, actually. Um I saw a breakdown that the villain is gonna be played by the girl on Stranger Things. What's her name? Million. No, no. The You're thinking of the the game? No. Oh yeah. Um the the the Ranger one. You know the one I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

No, I don't. Oh when you say Ranger, yeah, so she I haven't watched Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

So she she I know you're really living in the game. I don't watch, I'm not sure. She is supposed to be playing this villain that like gets into people's heads and possesses them and stuff. And like there was like a trailer analysis breakdown. Anyway, so have you uh you're telling me you've ever watched a Spider-Man movie?

SPEAKER_01 2:38

Well I'm sure m and maybe I've only okay of the Tom Holland ones, I've only watched the first one in 2017. And I went to the m I watched it at the movie.

SPEAKER_03 2:47

So you you haven't seen the other ones? No.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

So you haven't seen Far From Home or the 2019 one from memory that came out in like December 2019. I think anyway, that that doesn't matter. And then the last one the other one.

SPEAKER_03 3:00

Yeah, well the the the last one was I think 2021, but that was the big one. Yeah, that's where he was with Toby and Andrew, the other Spider-Man. Yeah, I wouldn't I haven't watched the Toby ones. I watched the Andrew ones and I liked the second Andrew one. Um but I anyway, it's interesting that Tom Holland's getting a fourth because the other one is.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Well that's that's what I'm trying to that's what I was thinking. Like, I thought it was all wrapped up, I thought it was all done. Like, is this just for money, this one?

SPEAKER_03 3:22

No, but I'm here for another Spider-Man trilogy. Yeah, sure. I'm not saying there's anything.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

I'm not saying it's wrong, but like, if they had just left the last one to Tom Holland one, could it have the story made sense? Like Toy you know, Toy Story? Yeah, yeah. How they did Toy Story 3 and Toy Story 4 shocking.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

The third one had a a somewhat conclusive ending. Yeah. But I mean it's still it it's not like it's open for interpretation. It's another movie. Like it just put him in a new position to do different things. Okay. It's just, um, spoiler alert for the people who haven't watched the third one, he his friends won't remember him, and his aunt is dead. So basically it's just left him with no one, but he can still go and do things.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

And wasn't that that that um animation one, Spider-Man? Yeah, but that's a different one.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

That's the Spider-Man. Like the other thing. There's a different one with the black Spider-Man, Miles. It's called like the multiverse or some shit. I haven't watched them once.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Some flower.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Yeah, yeah, because they that they have good albums them once. Yeah. Because they have good soundtracks. They have a lot of people on them soundtracks, but no, I've never seen them. But I mean Why did you never watch that? I never watched the other. The the animated ones. No, I've never seen the animated ones. Interesting. I don't I don't know what's going on with them. But look, I I quite like the Tom Holland ones. And I like Tom Holland generally as an actor as well. Because then then there's the whole thing, like, is he supposed to be married to Zendaya? Are they together? Are they?

SPEAKER_01 4:39

That stylist, I'm not sure if it's a he, she, whatever. Yeah. Got asked about it at Golden Globes. Yeah. And then they were like, what do you call it? Um like the the the the sorry. The reporter was asking them that this is Zenday's stylist. Yeah. I believe, or publicist, or whatever whatever.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Someone asked Oh, what's what's Zenday gonna do for the wedding? What is your whatever? And it it's already like he's like, it's already happened. Oh really? Yeah, it's already happened. So there is like rumour that they are already married. And then that just started everything off, like now on Wikipedia and stuff. No, it's Wikipedia, but on all of it, it says spouse. Like it's it's all been put in now.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

Like, it's pretty extreme because she could have just been joking that stylist slash publicist. Like that.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

I don't know if it's a well and then he got asked about it at the Oscars. Who's he? Tom Holland.

SPEAKER_03 5:29

No, no, the stylist.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

We just I don't know the I don't know the pronouns. Whatever. Operator. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

Yeah. Um and then kind of backtracked.

SPEAKER_03 5:38

I don't know, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

But it's a big shit stuff. But yes. So no one really knows. No, but no one knows.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

And fair enough, I guess, because like, you know, I was going to be private.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

This is the thing. She already said it was going to be private. So since it was said that, everyone's kind of like, well, this is the most we have. This is the issue if you're gonna have a big private race.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

Which everyone kind of has, but like Yeah, I think, look, I think celebrities are entitled to their privacy. But I mean at the same time, sometimes they can't get mad when they're not given privacy. I don't think Chapel wrote it throughout with the paparazzi. Did you see that? No, I have. Did she crack the shit? I I've seen something where she swears at someone or something. Yeah, look, look, as I said, I liked her performance at Lameworth.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Yeah, she was really um good, wasn't she? Yeah, she was.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

Anyway, we're not going back into that. But look, yeah, I think celebrities are entitled to a level of privacy, but they can't crack the shits when they're not always given that. Because in the end of the day, it was their choice to pursue the career. And none of them are none of them are racing to give up their careers, are they?

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Yeah, don't get don't get me wrong. For example, like a wedding, it's fine to just have like a normal wedding. Yeah. Like as if an any other individual on the exact would have not have paparazzi, not have media there, whatever. Yeah. But then they can't get annoyed when there's when they do show up. The paparazzi do show up and can't take photos and whatever. Anyway. Yeah. Interesting. It's gonna be interesting a movie. I might watch it.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

You gotta watch it. You gotta watch the other ones. You gotta go back. You gotta watch the Tom Holland ones.

MAFS Update

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Exactly. There you go. So maps update for this week. It feels like a lot has happened, but not much has actually happened.

SPEAKER_03 7:13

I haven't seen that much on TikTok this week.

SPEAKER_01 7:15

Yeah, it's all kind of calmed down.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Um I'll do it in chronological order. So Juliet and Joel have gone. You know Juliet and Joel. Yeah. I was gonna say I wanted to say this actually. Juliet, I know her type. Like I've just feel like I feel like calm, I know her type. I've just met a lot of characters who are like Juliet in my life. She reminds me of a lot of people in the way she conducts herself and in the way she just kind of is able to just snap. Like she she can go from zero to a hundred. She can be having a nice, you know, kind of fake conversation and just start swearing her head off. I just feel like I know those types of people. I've met I've met them before, you know what I mean? Anyway, so so she was on the couch, and the reason why they left is because she was getting she walked off, because she was getting confronted by the experts over words she was saying to Beck. Yep. That were mean and malicious or whatever, right?

SPEAKER_04 8:09

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Now Juliet was like, she's shit, I've got this coming up. Now, and you know who she collaborate collaborated with? You know Beck? Do you know Beck? Yeah, of course Beck. Beck Beck's the best one. So not Beck, sorry. What am I talking about? Gia. Gia, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 8:24

Uh no, from what I've heard, I don't like Gia as much as I like Beck.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

She always Gia I always throw out everybody.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Is Gia the one we saw? Yes. We we fucking saw this woman. We were we were at we were just coming out of Edgecliff Station and we were having a debate on housing policy, wasn't it? And we noticed that there was like a woman behind us with like some guy in a suit. And I know this is a new thing. Like, is is this Gia woman supposed to be with her husband from the show? No, she's with my husband. But no, but it's not he. Oh it wasn't. Maybe this is breaking news on our podcast. What's the bet it's not even Gia? What's the bet we've gotten the wrong?

SPEAKER_01 9:04

I know, but it felt like to me, it didn't seem like it was her boyfriend. It felt more like it was like a publicist or like a uncle. Like it just felt like, you know.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

Yeah. Anyway. Anyway, so sorry, we saw her coming out of Edgecliff Station. Yeah. Um, and then Oliver only pointed out to me that it was her. When we were further away. When we were further away. Yes. And they were like kind of chuckling when we were talking about like, I don't know, 5% deposits. Yeah. I was talking about 5% deposits and housing, and they were like chuckling. And then when they cross the road, Oliver tells me, and then I'm like, well, mate, why the fuck did you not tell me before? So then I was waiting for her to walk across the road. She's no media. I was gonna I was gonna yell out, Are you Gia from maps? Can we get a photo? And then I was gonna invite her on our podcast, right? Yeah. Um, but then she ended up going the other way. So we're gonna. I also thought what is he says, not Gia and not the guy. Then who cares? They'll just say, No, I'm not Gia when I yell out. Just know the the tone you would have said it. Fuck Gia. I wouldn't have said it like that. Across the road. Anyway. Well, I would have had to have been loud.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

We've done a massive detour. Sorry. It's like you know you know the Trump weave? You know the weave like so Gia decided to give Juliet some screenshots of things Beck has said about other people and it's in writing, right? So she can't deny it because Beck has a thing for denying things that happens.

SPEAKER_04 10:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Um and she printed these off. Now she never ended up using them, but she decided Juliet decided when she left to give it to the person she was talking about named Alyssa. Yep. Now they're screenshots, I have them here. Okay, I've got the two. Directly sent to you by GR.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

I'm your best friend of the podcast.

unknown 10:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Okay. Um, and they're talking about what do you call it? Alyssa. And we've spoken about Alyssa and Dave before. I don't really like another another one of these, like the performative whatever. And Beck says The only fake cunts in this place are those two fucking cunt-licking Christian influencer wannabe cunts. This is what Beck says.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

I I like that. I like that she threw in the Christian thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

And then no one no one replied to that message anyway.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

Oh, is this on a group chat?

SPEAKER_01 11:08

This was on a group chat with Brooke. Oh god, this woman's really lost it, hasn't she? This is what I'm saying. Why is Beck and group chats with GR? This is the whole thing, aren't they? Arch nemesis? This is what I mean. I somewhat think I relate to Beck a lot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:22

In a bad way.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

What that you just you speak your mind, you speak for the people, like Well no, she c she's had a few sh this is like the fifth time every single drama is starting to revolve around Beck. Of course, that's how I know her. I don't know many of them. Like I know Beck. Okay, in a normal season, this would not be like anything special. Yeah. This would just be like 30 minutes of an episode. Yeah, yeah. Right? But since there's nothing becoming she's the centre of attention. Yeah. And she always apologizes. She always knows it's wrong. Yeah. So why does she do it? Because she can't she's unable to identify the concept of why she's getting into she's she can't So she just gets into shit and doesn't really realise why or the factors leading up to it.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

She just ends up there and then just acts all fucking confused afterwards. Oh, I'm sorry. And she's an Aquarius. So there's not much like emotional depth there.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Yes, there's no that's exactly thank you. Yeah, yeah. And no one has said that in any other analysis I've said, but that's correct. She has no I don't I don't really see any emotional emotional intelligence.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

Yes. EQs.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

And then she gets all and then she feels all bad for herself. Um and then her husband, kind of quite, Danny. I didn't really like Danny to become to begin with. I've never heard of Danny. I thought, but he's actually a really nice guy. Like he Are they still together? I'm not sure that in real life no one knows. Like it's they've actually been able to keep it. I don't think they are.

SPEAKER_04 12:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Um but what do you call it? But he's actually really like he's always on the money with what he's talking about, and he's you know, like I think and he's able to to tell Beck when she's being in the wrong and when they're just trying to pile onto her and whatever. Anyway, so that was the main thing to sweat because then Alyssa confronted Beck about those text messages and it was just the same thing over and over again. Oh sorry, whatever. But like anyway.

SPEAKER_03 13:09

These people, I know. I'm honestly I I like the maps updates. I'm starting to get a bit fatigued. Well, they'll have gone.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

We we're actually in the process of thinking once maps is over, oh well we we actually know.

SPEAKER_03 13:19

I said to you, we're gonna do horoscope updates. So we're gonna read our horoscopes in future instead of maps updates. When does maps end? Uh like how much longer do we have to do that? I think it's the end of the school holiday, so it'll be a few weeks? Sometime in April.

SPEAKER_04 13:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

So there we go. We're coming to the end of it. Because that's what I'm saying. I agree with what you were just saying, your analysis there. Every week it feels like the same thing. Feels like Beck's fucking done something and everyone has to react to it. Yes, exactly right. And I just feel like I don't know, even as someone who doesn't watch it, as someone who hears about it, as someone who discusses it, it's just becoming a bit strange.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

Well, you know Beck very well. I do. She's one of the ones that I am very familiar with. And my dad doesn't watch mouth, obviously. Right. He knows he knows fucking Beck because she's not.

Birthstones

SPEAKER_03 14:01

She's a networker. Yes. That's what anyway. This week, a friend of the podcast asked us what our thoughts on birthstones were, which I thought, you know what, that's quite an interesting topic because you don't often hear about birthstones as much as you do astrology and other new age religious expressions. Do you get what I'm saying? Like it's not a common thing. Um so I thought, you know what, instead of answering the question in a message, I would much rather discuss it in depth on the podcast. On the podcast, because obviously we've also discussed astrology in depth, and I think that people quite enjoyed hearing that because you get both perspectives. So I don't even know what my birthstone is, but I believe that you've done the research. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Yours is Sapphire. Sapphire. September. And it's associated. They're very brief or what's the brief state? Associated with wisdom, loyalty, nobility.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

That's interesting, because my mum's last name is literally noble. So you can actually literally tick that last one off. Not in a I love myself way, but just in a like Yeah, there's a link to it.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

There's a link to it.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

Yeah, exactly. What were the other ones?

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Wisdom and loyalty.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

I would say I'm I'm loyal. Yeah. Relatively. I mean it depends on how close I was I I I am to the person. Yeah. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. Wisdom I'll leave that. I think you do have a lot of that open to interpretation. I'm not here to do it.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

I think that's accurate. I do think you have a lot of wisdom.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

I think it it I've seen less accurate um New Age religious expressions depict me. Do you get what I'm saying? Like I've seen less accurate depictions.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Like what?

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Um I think star signs. I think that that's more accurate than star signs.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

Your star as it says on here that your star sign's very linked to sapphire.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

Yeah, to an extent. But I mean, I just think that that obviously it's short, it's sharp, it's straight to the point. That is true. I kind of like that. Whereas, you know, when you Google Virgo, all this shit, it gives me all this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Yes, but so sorry, I th I didn't mean to cut in, but in terms of since it's so short, it's a bit like it doesn't have depth. That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

Yeah, but that's that's why I like it. Because none of this shit has any depth. This isn't even claiming to have that depth.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Birthstones claimed Birthstones, I don't I don't really say that as a new age religion.

SPEAKER_03 16:16

No, I'm just saying, you know, heebie jeeby spiritual fucking happy clap of shit. Like that's that's the category I would put it in. But what's what's yours?

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Mine's mine's garnet, which is the most disgusting disgusting thing. I've never heard that deep red. It just looks so tacky, like it's just whatever.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

It sounds disgusting. Yeah. Have you known about this in your life? No.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

I just I never really got into birthday.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

You guys can't you can't see him, but he looks quite physically like disturbed reading this garnet thing.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

And my see this is what I mean. Yours was s pretty much accurate. Mine s garnet symbolizes protection, strength, and vitality. I didn't even know what the fuck vitality means.

SPEAKER_03 16:54

I don't know though, if it like when I think it's like large Big Mac Meal, I don't think anyone thinks protection. Like, do you get what I'm saying? It's just a weird way to describe someone.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

I know, but and this is the thing as well. Because obviously it says on here, yours is linked to Virgo quite strongly.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

Yeah, is yours not linked?

SPEAKER_01 17:10

No, to Aquarius at all.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

And this is the thing, right? Like obviously I said to an extent that my birthstone could be accurate, or it's more likely to be accurate than not. But I'm sure if we did this study, right, pretty much most people who believe in astrology would probably believe in birthstones in some form, right? That's just because that's the type of thinkers they are, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

Now as you just said, they actually in many cases contradict each other. So what I would say as someone who doesn't believe in any of this shit, is you can't believe in both. You gotta choose one because they contradict, they can't work together.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

But to be fair, to be fair, it says garnets. Okay, so you are a Virgo, right? Yeah. And Virgo is like the first kind of it's the 25th of August. That's right. And yours is linked on here, the first one in January. Like the my version of a Virgo's Capricorn. Yeah. And it says on here, this is linked to Capricorn. So I wonder if mine's like the February one.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Yes, maybe, potentially. But then, I mean, even then, what came first? Like, did birthstones come first or did astrology come first?

SPEAKER_01 18:19

That's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 18:19

Because I mean they would all claim to be pretty ancient in a way. Um, but I mean I'm sure if you went back through history, not many ancient um ancient groups of people would be following this stuff, I don't think.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

But anyway, I'm not astrology came first.

SPEAKER_03 18:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

Well I'm not I'm not well versed in the history, but the reason why birthstones came to be is because they're linked to the calendar. So it's so su so it's easier to understand.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

What do you mean it's linked to the calendar?

SPEAKER_01 18:46

As in like is easier the astrology isn't but over is over multiple months.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Yeah, but like why do why is each month a specific rock? I don't understand. Because it's easier for people. Is it just easy? Is there a is there a chronological link to that rock? Yes. Like why in September did we have Sapphire? And why did we have Garnet in January?

SPEAKER_01 19:10

You know I because obviously I think the astrology stuff like I kind of believe it. I don't I think This is all bullshit. I think the birthstone stuff bullshit. I think it's bullshit. Especially the rocks. I think that's just capitalism. Like I think people are just getting that.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Absolutely. Um because it is it's a tangible physical thing. And it I'm sure all of these hippies are going out and buying their birthstones, aren't they? Yeah, of course. And I that that is the thing I will give astrology. To an extent, it is not as much a capitalist grab. However, you can pay money on apps and you can get psychics to do that. But the actual belief system is not just invented. That's like well, it's just like every other religion.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

It's kind of like every other religion.

unknown 19:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:51

I mean they all have they all have physical objects and stuff like that. But yes, birthstones are one of the only belief systems where it is solely focused on objects. And that is interesting. I wonder if it is a cash grab.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Just so people know as well, my my um what do you call it? Birthstone, like the February one. It's not it's not like that. No, I don't I don't like the right. You don't, so it just it's a failure.

SPEAKER_05 20:17

Mine's yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Yeah.

South Australian Election

SPEAKER_03 20:20

Story of my life. Tonight, on the day of recording this, there is an election on in South Australia, the South Australian state election. Um, and it's actually happening in just a few hours. We are having a a watch party for it. It's gonna be a rage up. We're gonna have another another 50 people come into the house. It's gonna be overflowing. People centering out the windows. I know. I know all shapes, sizes, and colours as well. Anyway, um, so yes, basically, a quick synopsis for those who who don't intensely follow South Australian state politics, which I'm sure many of you won't. Um, basically, uh Labour is gonna have another landslide win. Um are they? We'll see. Well, who knows?

SPEAKER_01 21:09

But they're gonna okay, Labour's definitely gonna win, but yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 21:13

Now, what we could discuss here is are they gonna get as high of a primary vote as they got in 2022? Yeah. Because in 2022 they got 40%, which is our news poll that released the other day just put them at 40% again, did they? Yes. Or was it less? Some other polls have them at less though. There's one at 35%. Around, yeah, 35 to 37, 38, right? Now, what might happen, and it's very possible and probably will, is Labour might actually get a lot of primary votes, so that's less people putting them at first preference, right? They might get a lower primary vote, but they might actually have more seats. Yeah. Now, the reason this might happen is, and you know, I feel like a bit of a I feel like Annabelle Crab when I say shit like this, right? But it's because of the collapse of the Liberal Party, which we've discussed on the podcast, the rise of one. Which we've also discussed in the podcast. So I think when we look at the Liberal Party, um now I believe they were in for was it one term. One term, and then they lost government to the current premier, Peter Melanowskis, um, in 2022. Yeah. They then had a group of very colourful leaders. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

One was a drug dealer.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

If you Google the first one's name on Google, it says dealer, as in drug dealer, and former leader of the opposition in South Australia. His name was David Spears. Um not to be confused with ABC's David Spears. And um he was what he he was called, snorting? Was it snorting? Yeah, snorting cocaine. Yeah, anyway, so great guy there. We then put in the socially awkward Vincent what's his name? Um, there's a great photo of him sitting in a car, and he just he literally, there is not a thought behind them eyes. No, it's this guy could not connect to people. He was just, if you could imagine the bulk standard liberal, like that's him.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

I saw Snot Feen that he his preferred premiere, it was like 83% against Malino and then 16% to him.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

Yeah, so no one liked this guy, no cut-through. They've now put in this woman called Ashton Hearn. I love Ashton. She's actually doing a very good job. I love Ashton. And this is coming from two people who would vote Labour, right? She's bringing tears to my eyes. She's actually pain. She's actually, and she needs credit for it. And I actually I haven't seen her get the credit she deserves to the level we will. So you know what, Ashton? We might send this to you just so you know you have a bit of hope after the bloodbath that you're about to endure. Um she's just she's done a really good job in the sense that I think she has managed to run a somewhat clean campaign. I know that her messaging, I'll I'll get to the thing in a sec. I know her messaging's been focusing on on simple issues, the basics, yeah. Um, which I think might have cut through to an extent because I know Labour's very focused on bringing big events to the state and stuff like that. Um she obviously has had issues though with a candidate um who went on a Christian conservative podcast called Feminism Demonic, claim he saw a witch melt in a church and stuff like that. But in my opinion, even then in the debates, which I've watched the Sky News and the ABC one, she actually addressed that quite well in the sense that she kind of you know very quickly got off that topic, say, saying, Hey, I'm not focused on internal Liberal Party politics, I'm focused on bread and butter issues, and I think that that answer, although she had a very messy situation to clean up, I think that was a pretty good answer.

SPEAKER_02 24:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

Um so that's kind of the situation with the Libs, they're gonna get decimated though, there's there's no saving them. Um and then looking over at one nation, then um the rise of one nation. So obviously we've addressed it on a federal level, but more specifically on a state level. It's not as colourful as what happened with the Liberal Party, but um basically former Liberal Senator Corey Bernardi. Now he's you know interestingly.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

I think he was a Lib. Or was he just I I know he had his own party called the Conservatives. Yeah, eventually, but maybe he started off as a Lib.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

I think he started off and then he aggressively cookerized himself, if that's a statement. Um so anyway, uh he was a federal Liberal Senator. Uh he is now the South Australian One Nation Party leader.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Um and you know what? He has had a bit of cut-through online, stuff like that, but obviously with One Nation surge, it's looking likely he will enter the South Australian upper house with probably another seat there.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Which is all proportional, by the way. So it's basically as many whatever percentage of the vote you get, you basically get in seats. That's why he'll probably get in. Yeah. But then the big question is how many lower house seats will one nation get in.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Exactly. And that's why we did predictions. So you have the predictions over there. So the first one is mine. Do you want to read that out?

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Your prediction had like the most autistic. I know, I know. 37 for Labour, four for the Libs, two for one nation, and then four independents. Yeah, and yours was? 36 for Labour, so that's one less than yours. Yeah. I had four One Nation, one Lib, and then six independents. So you really think the Libs are gonna be completely wiped out? Okay, the r the reason why I think is there was a good regional polling thing I ha I saw. Yeah. Um, and it was the polling company was a little bit dodgy, but like it uh it was very striking in the fact that the Liberals' vote actually went up in the cities. Yeah. Their vote is lower in regional areas, which is unheard of.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

Is that because Ashton Hearn is a moderate leader?

SPEAKER_01 26:36

No, it's more because One Nation's vote is so big out there. They're getting 39% on that poll in regional areas.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

I just realized are there no South Australian nationals?

SPEAKER_01 26:46

Uh there is a party and they only run in one seat. And they're not in the city. No, they're not in a coalition. It's crazy. I I haven't. They're not in a coalition in WA either. So there you go.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

There's a crash course on they have seats in WA so yeah, yeah. That's a crash course on South Australian regional politics. Yeah. Um, but then it will also be interesting, then obviously you guys will know the outcome of the election. So you'll be able to compare our predictions um with the actual results. Um so anyway, we're just having all the 50 people in this house are like about to bust through the door. The fucking Nick and all of his Asian kids are gonna come flying in. Um so anyway, yeah, and it will be interesting as well, the aftermath of the election. Um whether or not they keep on Ashton Hearn, if Ashton Hearn even has a seat. Yes. Um, how well one nation does, were they underestimated, were they overestimated? Um I personally think that uh people are overestimating one nation in this election, and I think they'll um they'll perform better in the Farah by-election than historically at the last federal just for some facts.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

At the last federal election, only 70% or 71% of people who intended to vote one nation actually followed through.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

Because people go in there and they're not the br let's just say they're not the brightest people. They're not the they're not the sharpest tools in the shed, are they? They're good tools.

SPEAKER_03 28:10

Um Hillary Clinton deplorables comment. Well, I'm just saying that.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

I'm sorry, but that that's a big thing.

SPEAKER_03 28:16

I think that there needs to be an analysis of why 30% of people who say they're gonna vote. I also think that if you start using language like alluding to the fact that one nation voters are uneducated, which don't get me wrong, I agree with you, the stats would indicate that. If we use language like that, it alienates them, meaning it isolates them, meaning that they crack the shits more and then they turn to protest parties like one nation voting.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

There's a reason why is 30% like the facts would say of wise. No, I agree. I'm not picking up, I'm just looking at voting patterns. Yes. Why is 30% of all people saying they're going to vote for One Nation not actually doing it? I know, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

But I'm sure as well, to back you up, you could look at university education levels, and I'm sure One Nation voters would probably have one of the lower rates of university education than a lot of other voting blocks. No, no, I was speaking about we as people in major parties need to be careful that we don't relegate these people to the boxes because then they'll they'll stay in that box.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

I'm just saying there's a reason why only 30 per s 30%, almost one in three people who intended to vote One Nation did it at the federal election. So I'm saying that that's to back up your point of happening in South Australia. There's probably a reason for that. Yeah. One being people going in and thinking, and because they're not the sharpest tools in the shed, because they're going in thinking, I want Pauline, I want Pauline. And then they don't see Pauline on the ballot.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Yeah. Yeah, no, that's that's definitely one factor. And as well, you know, when people when people, you know, have polsters reach out to them, you know, who are you voting for? And you you gotta remember people just snap, I'm voting for fucking Pauline. Give me fucking Pauline every day of the week. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. So like there's that anger. Whereas when they're actually in the voting, when they're in the booth, they really they really think.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Which is which I find interesting because you look in America and they're unable to do that, get the Trump vote properly.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

People don't want to say they're voting for Trump. Yes, exactly. But then it's the opposite here.

SPEAKER_03 30:10

A lot of Trump voters are actually not picked up in polling. Yeah. Because they're the polling companies just can't reach them. But for some reason, all the polling companies, they have direct fucking hotlines to all the cookers. Like, you know, give me a fucking cooker here, cooker there, cooker fucking everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

And that's interesting because you've got to remember polling companies, um, the reason why One Nation might also be doing quite well in having higher numbers is because a lot of these companies still use telephone. Like r news poll still uses telephone. Yeah. And that's obviously going to skew to older people. Who has time to pick up a phone? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, no, young young people. It used to be landline after 2019, they dumped it, so now it's just phone. But you know, even then, like who's picking up exactly. So it'll be interesting to see what happens. I just want to make a note though, in terms of One Nation's capped, the reason why I think they might be capped, especially, is because there's a lot of regional independence. Yeah. So I doubt I highly doubt One Nation's gonna knock off independence. They're just gonna be able to do that. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 31:11

Like that, and it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be, you know how we were talking about the Labour primary versus seats. Yes. One nation's gonna get a high primary vote, but then these aren't gonna translate into lower house seats. They'll translate into maybe two or three upper house seats. Yeah. As I said, I probably have them getting maybe two lower house, but even then that's ambitious. Yeah. I know a lot of analysts say that they're not even gonna get any in the lower house. Um, they've also been hesitant to put a benchmark of success on themselves. And that look, I think fair enough, because you don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, it's a very volatile thing.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

No, and I agree with that actually that's a bit respectful, well not respectful, but it's a respectable thing for them to do. It's smart because you'd think these people would try and, you know, whatever. Yeah. You know, but it'll be interesting to see what happens.

NDIS Fraud

SPEAKER_03 31:54

And you guys will know the results. I mean, obviously, Labor's gonna win, but you're gonna know the exact details, and I'm sure that you're all across it. I'm sure you're looking into all the regional boosts in South Australian state politics. How fucking great. We've been NDIS sent up again. I know Christmas has come at once. Some big news coming out of Western Sydney this week. Do you reckon we have many westies listening to our podcast? Well, I'm a westie. You're not a westie. We had this discussion. You're not a westie. I I live so okay. My criteria, hear me out, the Cooks River.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Yep. Southwest or west of it. You live south of it. You don't live anywhere with it. Well, even south of it, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

No, no.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

I live southwest.

SPEAKER_03 32:35

If you put a map southwest, I love that in the in the thing with you. Southwest Sydney is Liverpool. Yes, I'm not sure. I live nowhere near Liverpool. I'm southwest of the ri river. Okay. That doesn't mean you're southwest Sydney then. Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. I'm in a southwest Sydney. Here's a good stat for you. I live in Canterbury Banks Town Council. Yeah. And I live to the west of you on a map. So that means I'm not. You live east of the river. No, but I don't subscribe to your river agenda.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

This is all good. Do you think the river's a criteria just to help my case?

SPEAKER_03 33:05

Well, this is it, this is actually yes, but this is an interesting thing, actually. I've been advocating that we need to clean up the Cooks River. Not me personally, I I would never go near that thing. Fucking clean up the Australia day. Yeah, no, not for me, but for environment. My short-lived time as environmental minister. But um we need to clean up the Cooks River because it's mess, right? But I actually, I was in my geography lecture, and apparently they tested the waters and it's just too far gone. Like it's too toxic. If they move the water out of there, or if they mess with the water, all of this toxic stuff is gonna come out and pollute the surrounding suburbs.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

I just I just think no.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

I just call bullshit. I just think if that Okay, there's just been a ridiculous way out. I think it's just been a fucking ridiculous amount of money. Just put a billion dollars to it. One billion, ribee. One billion just to the river, it'll be fixed. Well, I think we need a beach in the cookie lot.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Don't you think it's been there?

SPEAKER_01 33:59

No, but we will fix it up apart from the Asian guy I see fishing off the fucking Catherine River. Oh god. You get like three-eyed Catherine bridge, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:07

You get three-eyed fish and babies. Remember the woman had a baby in the bed? We're joking.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

This is a good story. My dad in the baby. Yeah, he went fishing in the biggest. He was with his uh puppy Nick's younger days. And you know what he caught?

SPEAKER_03 34:24

Fuck off. Fuck off. Anyway, um well, actually, just on this, we'll get to the main topic in a sec. If you had to live anywhere in Sydney, where would you live? Because you'd live west, wouldn't you? I'd live in Horsley Park. For those who don't know, I would live in Borkloos, so that's completely different. So why would you want to live there?

SPEAKER_01 34:41

It's a bit of an Aquarius thing of just wanting to be independent, like you know.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

I think as well, it's because it's the end of Sydney. I can guarantee you there is no one in Horsley Park who believes in astrology. I can almost guarantee you that. There's actually a lot of Maltese there as well, so I I actually feel a bit of a connection to culture there.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

It's actually one of the most Maltese suburbs.

SPEAKER_03 34:59

So would that mean that it's the highest level of inbreeding in the country?

unknown 35:04

Eventually God.

SPEAKER_03 35:05

I'm just curious. I actually did I looked it up. Maltese inbreeding. Are you guys one of the most inbred? Well, it's a very small island. I think it's 2%. That's what I'm saying. 2%. It's a very small island. Yes. You know, and when you're on a small, you know. You gotta do what you gotta do, not much space, not many people. Anyway, so 2%'s quite a good figure. No, it's not. Zero inbreeding. One in fifty, one in fifty on an island like that. I guarantee you Australia does not have that high inbreeding. Maybe in maybe in Queensland.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Okay, but to be fair, to be fair, actually in World War II, Malta actually had a million people in Ireland. Now it's only 500,000. So there's actually been half half half of them were in Australia. They're all into Australia. They're all in sunshine. Sunshine Melbourne. What if it lives in Sunshine?

SPEAKER_03 35:51

What do you prefer, actually? The the Sydney Western suburbs or the Melbourne Western suburbs? They're very similar.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Oh, I could live in either. I could live in neither.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

So that's just me. Well, it's also Melbourne's North, but Melbourne's North and Sydney's North are very different, are you? Oh god, yeah. Um, because that's right. God, we're really going off the topic here. We're gonna get. I I watched a whole thing about you know that electorate, what's it called? Is it Mitchell or something? It's one of the ones uh at the top of Melbourne. Federal? Yeah, Federal Electorate. No, it's the one with the big fat guy.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

Peter Khalil.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

No, no, no, really up north. Like a McEwen, but that's not Melbourne. That's it's like it's like Mitchell. It's red Mitchell. Yes, that's why Mitchell is coming to me. The guy's name's Mitchell. And there's only one highway to get in and out of there. And it's a really bad corridor. Yeah, there was for a while. I think they may have upgraded it now. But then voters are really angry, and that's why they were saying that they might lose the seat because the way that the urban planning has has been made is they have all these great new modern houses. That's actually there's one road to go into that.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

That's interesting. This is the last thing we're saying on this before. The actual topic. But when I was in Melbourne and Sunshine, because I used to get all the ads Victoria Catered. The only two I used to get was Melbourne for Adam Bat, which is interesting in hindsight. So maybe they knew they probably just splashed. Or maybe they knew he was fucked and no one realised. And McEwan, and they kept them going on about the highway. Yeah, exactly. Is that the main thing in that election?

SPEAKER_03 37:18

Yeah. Anyway. So now not only are you guys across South Australian regional politics, you're also across uh the infrastructure in fucking Greater Melbourne. Yeah, exactly. So there you go. But anyway, what the whole topic about Western Sydney was about was about the NDIS fraud that's going on. Well alleged. Alleged fraud. Alleged. I mean, we've seen it. But so basically, there's this guy, and I I don't even know how to introduce him to this podcast. Like, his name's Drew Pavloo. This guy is the biggest shit stirrer I think I've ever seen. Um if you go on.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

Is he 24?

SPEAKER_03 37:53

24. 24, but he acts like he's seven. Yeah. Right? You go on X, you refresh his feed, and every minute there'll be a new tweet. Donald Trump reposted him. I know, that's what I'm getting to. So this guy's just chronically online, he's always shit stirring, his politics is all over the place. Oh, yeah. Like he's voted labor, yeah, Albanese, but now he's going on about how Trump's one of the greatest presidents and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

He endorsed Kamala, even though I don't think anyone in America's waiting for his endorsement, but you know. I know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 38:19

So it's a complete mess. Trump reposted one of his things about the ISIS brides. That's a whole separate issue that we also discussed. But anyway, so he has done some quote unquote investigative journalism where he has basically showed up to um supposed NDIS centres that he is accusing of being like a front for like money laundering and stuff like that, and basically recorded and harassed the workers there as if he's almost entitled to give answers. Now, I'll pass it to you in a sec. My general overview of this would be don't get me wrong, I'm sure there is a lot of fraud in the NDIS that's going on. Um I just don't think that that's the way to go about it. He has no grounds to do what he's doing. He would argue, well, I'm a taxpayer and that's my money going to it. But I mean, that doesn't just give you the right to step onto people's properties and shove cameras in their face. I can't go out and do certain things and just say, oh, I'm doing this because I'm a taxpayer. That is just not a logical argument. And also, it's just like I also think he's making it about race. He is accusing um Muslims and also, you know, just other specific um agreeable. Um, very similar to what happened with Nick Shirley uh in Minnesota about the Somalians. But anyway, what are your thoughts just generally?

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Very interesting. Okay. It's very multifaceted in the sense that you got a situation here where I think it's good that now with the rise of social media we are able to have topics discussed that the mainstream media doesn't always talk about. Yeah, if no one would be talking about it. It gives us more variety, no one would be talking about perspective, no politicians, whatever. Even though no news has picked it up. But at the same time, then there's no code of ethics applied. The ethics of reporting and investigative journalism is out the window.

SPEAKER_03 40:08

Yes, so there's more reporting, but some of that reporting's lower quality.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

Well, it can bring up fake news, it's literally fake news.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

There's no way to monitor it, there's no idea.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

And what I found interesting, and correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't really watched the videos. I haven't either. Um I've just seen the main clips. He's having a go at the ones who are open. The people of the NDIFT.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

And that's because he just wants the views because he wants that combative nature.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

If he like if he actually went, he would be staying out at the front of all these ones that are that that are closed for the top.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

I know, that like why is that. Why would someone be in it laundering money? They could be at home laundering money if it was a fucking money laundering.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

If he wants to say that, he could there were plenty of ones closed, apparently. Of course. And we don't know if it was out of hours or whatever, we don't know. Yeah. But like he was harassing or harassing, confronting, whatever. I think it was harassing. The pl the places that were open.

SPEAKER_03 40:59

Yeah, but I also think to be fair to them, some of them, some of the people there who were who they were recording did get very feisty. Now, I would also argue that's almost fairer for cameras being shoved in your face. And I would also argue that the uh what's his name? Um, Drew Pavlu and his little friend, his little toy boy, I would also argue that they were asking for it a bit. Like, you know how he broke his sunglasses? Yeah. I mean, the guy basically shoved the sunglasses in her face. Like, do you get what I'm saying? So anyway.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Well, if that was me, I would have just said, leave on calling the police and then Do you know what?

SPEAKER_03 41:31

If that was me, it wouldn't be me. Because, like, you know, fucking Drew Pavlu is allergic to getting a fucking job. I mean, there's a video of his dad screaming at him. Yeah, NDIS session. Yeah, but just generally this whole situation. There's a video of his dad telling him to get a job because this guy just shits the big thing.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

The thing with the NDIS is though, it was very it has had a lot of problems.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Of course, but they've also um improved that significantly last year. I know a lot of people are upset about it, but I think that um also diverting a lot of people to thriving kids is probably a good idea because it's just more sustainable for the budget.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

And people comparing this as a Somalian thing in America. It's that was technically fraud.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

You know what I mean? It's a bit of a technically legal a lot of it than what they're doing.

SPEAKER_03 42:21

Yes, it's more that there's bad laws.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

You can register an NDIS centre and not open it and get grants. That's not any. Are you joking? Well, that's if you if you register an NDIS centre, fuck, why don't you get it? And just not open and just not open it. Of course.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

Yeah, see, we could expand from just a podcast to fucking NDIS center. We could literally call it the Oliver Wild experience. Like, come on in.

SPEAKER_01 42:41

But like, so it's it's it's very interesting, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 42:46

And I think we need to follow it because it's also like we will see if there's any legislative change about it. Look, I doubt it. There's not enough momentum right now, but I do think, you know, it it is a topic of discussion for many. It just hasn't quite been picked up by mainstream media and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

Yeah, but there's no credibility to these claims.

SPEAKER_03 43:04

But yeah, no, I think that's important to discuss because obviously I think everyone wants the best um to ensure that the NDIS is sustainable. But I also think as well when it comes to the NDIS, people talk about the money behind it, budget sustainability. I've just talked about it now. That's important. But I also think what is the most important thing is that people are actually getting what they need out of it.

SPEAKER_01 43:22

Well, that's the whole point of it. That's yeah, the NDIS, uh for those who don't, we should explain it, is basically it ensures providers of disability care. So the whole point of it compared to like Medicare, for example, which is like not as hands-on, you know, whatever. The NDIS is supposed the whole design of it is to be more hands on, more on the ground helping those people. Yeah. And the the issue with that is not government, they're not really government trained. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

They're not government, and I think they're private. You know what? I and I'm sure Drew would probably be against this because he's, you know, anti communist, anti lefty. I think if there is an argument that um we Need more public things like that in the sense that we need a national disability service. National disability service in in the sense that we need a nationally run one by the public service, not individual providers. I think that that would be the best argument for that. Because then you have streamlined processes. That's right. We have consistency, we probably have less fraud. But maybe maybe we might have uh you know slightly ballooning um inefficiencies and stuff with cost bureaucratic thing, yeah. But again, I think that there'd be no waste. But exactly. I think that you would actually reduce costs if we had a nationalised version of that. No, because it's because we would not be having waste and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

Groo does raise good points about these people or not. In the wrong way, as a racial um issue. Well, these some of these providers owning mansions and having Lamborghinis and shit like that. I don't think anyone who runs something like that should have that.

SPEAKER_03 44:54

Oh well look, I'm not here to tell people what they should or shouldn't have, but I just think yeah. And you know what, Drew, Drew won't be for what I just proposed, having one big public service nationalised NDIS, right? But I mean if he really used his brain and you know, if he looks at the issues he identified, yeah, I think that that would probably be the best fit. Anyway, we'll continue following it. Um and Oliver's gonna go and uh You know the NDIS.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Yeah for my hand Yeah yeah yeah, alright. For my hand thing. Yeah, okay, mate.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

What did you get?

SPEAKER_03 45:24

What did you get?

SPEAKER_01 45:26

It was just about my hand.

SPEAKER_03 45:28

What's your hand? Hyperflexia. Yes. You get NDIS for hyperflexia.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Well I don't now, what I used to. Why?

SPEAKER_03 45:34

But what were you getting for? Therapy. Oh my okay. May maybe Drew's on the right track. Maybe we need to cut this shit. I'm telling you right now.